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Old May 3 2008, 1:57 AM

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Loved it, especially the opening and closing of the piece. From a personal point of view, I would leave the pauses and transitions how they are. But then I like that sort of music.
As Classical.Rocker said, it does sound like something out of a Tim burton film (in my view, that's a good thing)
But that's all from me, keep it up. I hope there is much more to come
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Old May 5 2008, 12:46 AM

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Oh! i just realized this got bumped lol. well thanks guys for teh comments, im glad you enjoyed it!
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Old May 9 2008, 10:20 AM

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That Guy -- First off, I enjoyed best the opening section, neo -romantic but hints of Gorecki. Nice job on the constrasting orchestral choirs. I do think the divided opinion about your transitions stems from these two characteristics of your piece -

1) With midi reprdouctions, the rhythmns will be squarer compared to a good performers. So your transitions may be more abrupt.

2) You have alot of ideas in this piece and you could easily nurture this into a nice multi- movement piece.

I stongly suggest you take an orchestration class that offers you to hear live performances of the various choirs. You have an affinity for it already but midi or study of instrumentation groups will get you only so far. Working with live performers and hands on learning of the instrument's potentials is irreplaceable. (think of this way, if you want to be a great studio engineer, you will only get so far with your home recording, you need to go to a recording studio and work with various professional to learn different styles and methods to find you "voice")

One thing people forget on this forum, the orchestra at the time from Mozart to Beethoven was changing dramatically from what would be called today a mostly string chamber orchestra to its modern size. For example, clarinets were not introduced into orchestra until Mozart's late symphonies. Also, Beethoven built so much off Hadyn and Mozart --- especially Hadyn for exploring new ways to connect structure to orchestration as Hadyn had an orchestra at hand for much of his career to experiment. For dramatic arch and general orchestral formal models, Beethoven definitely looked to Mozart's later symphonies and opera scores. My point of all this is that these composers had access to performers and learned from them which in turn led to more performers getting interested and creating a larger group. So, that is why many teachers advise spending some time writing solos for individual instruments, then duos and trios, quartets then chamber and larger size groups. You get to concentrate on the diufferent choirs and it is easier to get a small group of players together rather than a large orchestra. Lastly, if you present any thing to an orchestra, as has been written on this forum, your notation skills have to be stellar and your score perfect (well, 99.9% is allowed) UNLESS you participate in a workshop. This takes much practice and development.

Keep up the good work. You have much talent and desire. Just be sure to nurture it wisely.
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Old May 10 2008, 3:10 AM

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Gorecki? No i think Frederik got it when he said early Schubert overture. Occasional lifts from Beethoven.
Obviously this is not the first piece you have written or orchestrated. The writing is confident and the orchestration sounds quite convincing in a late-classical or early Romantic style. I have to say that the transitions or lack of them didnt worry me at all. I generally never use them anyway - it makes the music too smooth. A bit of Beethoven-type drama is good.
I suppose my main comment would be that given that this piece suggests a certain amount of experience and ability in writing, maybe you should go the next step and try to develop a more personal style. Maybe this is an unreasonable suggestion but music has changed lot since 1828.
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Old May 10 2008, 3:57 AM

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composer and ablyth: first of all, thanks for your comments! i dont know if you know this but this was my first post about a year ago, i think my style has changed up a bit. im in school for music now and have learned quite a bit more with structure and transitions, as well as hearing more and more music. i thank you both for taking the time out of your day (or night ) to listen and give me some feedback! ive posted about your organ piece composer, now ablyth, lemme go find some of your music to return the favor! thanks again guys

P.S. in my sig is the other 2 more recent works of mine, check them out if you get a chance

Cheers!!

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