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View Poll Results: What percentage of a productions budget should be allotted toward scoring?
8%- 6 40.00%
Circa 10% 1 6.67%
Circa 15% 5 33.33%
Circa 20% 1 6.67%
22%+ 2 13.33%
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Old Mar 28 2008, 6:09 AM

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This depends on if you're a good composer or a crummy composer. It depends on the score as well as business intentions. Some scores called "fillers" are what James Horner can do quick and cheap, he doesn't ask for much, but he does a wonderful job. Unless your work is genius and virtually expansive in contrast to the feature film, you shouldn't deserve more than 5% of the gross.

The film "E.T. The Extra Terrestrial" for example was nothing without the John Williams score. Usually the ends don't justify the means. Because there was much effort put into the movie by everyone else but Williams, he could not recieve the real worth of his score by Spielberg's stamp or the production agency until the CDs (soundtracks) were sold. Films are more of a gateway for aspiring composers, and it's wrong to ask for too much even if you think you're the only one available capable to score the film to what you consider accomplished. There are much better composers out there composing for movies you only wish you had the chance on because they know how to work their way in and out of any situation without attracting too much negative attention to themselves. The real money makers are the ones with the natural talent of course.

Good film composers are like kings. They're respected by most, but they can't change the laws of the world. If I'm working on a video game with a team of three and I'm one of the three designers as well as the music composer, I still take in 33% of the web gross. But for major projects with hundreds in the crew, it's more of a talent contest.

In an extremely priceless case, my partner/movie director is giving me way more money than I deserve when his feature films are completely developed and in theatres across the globe, and this is mainly because my music has had an ongoing impact on the films and his writing and directing work throughout a large time in the industry and even before then. We are worth so much to each other, and even though I only write the music, I am like the second director because of the imagery and company I influence him with. We invested in each other because we recognized talent, intelligence, and loyalty. Sorry that I'm not giving you more information on my director and me; I'm keeping the details in serenity for personal benefit.

So this being said, you have to be a friend and not only a musician if you wish to earn your deserved salary in today's world, and it's been this way for a long time, so it's not bound to change soon unless you're the next Beethoven figuratively speaking. I can't say I'm one to show the disloyalty of Beethoven even if I have various musical talents such as he had. I'd rather be as selfless as I can be to where I will help the movie develop gracefully. I'm only speaking in figures here, as I'm generally stating that you have to put up a firm fecade of a casual businessman.

It helps to build your profile if you compose for movies you love. Jerry Goldsmith had a major problem with this aspect, and lack of love and care toward the unscored movie rather than the score itself is generally why his scored movies didn't gain much recognition. He was too much of a hothead in my opinion.

So personality factors play a big role in the film world (Spielberg/Williams or my director/me). Talent, business intentions, and most importantly the score itself are other roles of soundtrack gross.
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Old Apr 2 2008, 10:24 PM

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A little understanding and a confession.

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This...gross.
Umm. Thanks. I'm not going to pretend I grasped all of that, but I can truthfully say I hope to work with aspiring and able musicians/composers who are a lot like yourself. Music should mean passion and passion means a relationship will have to be built, shared and maintained for success. I think I can hold things up on my end...I have to make myself refrain from caring too much as it is and just keep my mouth shut. I really can't help with the personal problems of those I "work" with. Shamefully, I have a lot to do and to get it all done I can't afford to care in such a way as to invest much time in each business relationship I will have to forge. Pretty sad what business ambitions do to you if you bite off more that you realistically reckon you can chew ably...

I wish all success to you! I have got to listen to a few of your pieces...
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