Where do I go now?

This is what I heard in my head one night and so I figured teh notation out and I do not know where it belongs in the grand scheme of any composition. I have written out all the different parts in the different colors just in case I wanted it to be orchestrated. I don't think I will keep it on piano. I think it should be orchestrated, but I do not know what it is. I do not know whether it is an introduction to a longer piece. I do not know whether it is a build up to the high intensity dramatic part of a piece. I do know that I am going for a very modern/contemporary sacrifice scene type sound like Bernstein or Stravinsky might compose. I think that by the end of what I have already composed I am looking for it to have come to a plateau and have reached this big modern "the world is comming to an end" idea. Sort of like a morbid/ satanic dance. This sounds pretty weird, yet I think it is helping to convey the image of the sound that I want.

It strikes me as the theme to part of a minimalistic piece. You can build alot of things off that. Thats my 10 cents. I think it wouldn't work as a main theme to a regular piece because it is too hypnotic.

Good luck.

P.S. My piece The Air still hasn't gotten any post.(Karl is deffinitely not hinting at somone named RRR).

Cool song, what's with the measures in the begining?

Originally Posted by RM Clarinet

Cool song, what's with the measures in the begining?

It is just a short fragment of what is to become a larger piece. I do not know whether to make that a bridging section or the introduction or what. So, I have added some extra measures in case I want to write something in before that segment. I am sort of building the composition piece by piece and trying to guess where the pieces fit without being able to see all of the pieces first. I am sure that is a terrible way of going about it.

Originally Posted by Ravel's Radical Rivalry

It is just a short fragment of what is to become a larger piece. I do not know whether to make that a bridging section or the introduction or what. So, I have added some extra measures in case I want to write something in before that segment. I am sort of building the composition piece by piece and trying to guess where the pieces fit without being able to see all of the pieces first. I am sure that is a terrible way of going about it.

How many ideas do you have?

Well this is a good little section here.

It didn't strike me as anywhere near dark enough for your intended subject matter, although the march feel and Stravinsky similarity is definately there so good job.

I think that the rhythm and harmonic progression needs work because even in this sketch it seems static. My suggestion would be to clear that up with creative orchestration rather than an actual change in the original material.

I see this as something of an introduction that builds into a statement of your main motif, which needs to be strong, memorable and slightly dissonant.

I'll keep an eye on it as you work things out

Originally Posted by Marius

Well this is a good little section here.

Why, thank you. I think I keep getting better and better even if it is rather slowly.

It didn't strike me as anywhere near dark enough for your intended subject matter, although the march feel and Stravinsky similarity is definately there so good job.

I noticed that it was not very dark feeling especially when the first part is in the g major feel. I am glad that the Stravinsky feel came through, though. I need some help in figuring out how to make it more dark and contemporary. I just do not know how to do a lot of stuff and to convey the kind of dark feel that I want in this contemporary way is one of them. I have done as well as I can do. However, I think that part of the reason it is not as dark as it should be is just because it is a sketch. I think that certain orchestrations and dynamic markings will change things considerably. And that brings me to the fact that I know nearly nothing about orchestration. This will just be a huge learning experience for me. I have signed up for lessons and hopefully what I want will work out.

I think that the rhythm and harmonic progression needs work because even in this sketch it seems static. My suggestion would be to clear that up with creative orchestration rather than an actual change in the original material.

I can see what you are telling me. I think I can clear up the harmonic part on my own, but could you go into some detail about the rhythmic aspect of that comment. I would not know specifically what to do. But maybe when it is orchestrated it will not be as big of a deal.

I see this as something of an introduction that builds into a statement of your main motif, which needs to be strong, memorable and slightly dissonant.

I can see that as well. I am still torn between purposes for this section.

I'll keep an eye on it as you work things out

Cool. I have interested you enough in something that I have composed that you would come back and check on my progress.

Could you post a midi?

Definitely the opening motif. I hear it being played with string pizzicato in the bass and maybe the violin/viola section or the upper winds for the melody. I then hear it building to a cymbal crash, but with more buildup after what you have... and then a reduction in the texture, maintaining the bass figure with just the lowest strings very quietly. Then perhaps an arabic-sounding oboe/clarinet duet with a counter-melody. Maybe just see what you can come up with along those lines! If it fits, you might also throw in a tambourine on the off-beats for this intro, that would sound very cool.

If you are looking for that sacrificial sound, you need to build up these chords... add some more dissonant non-chord tones. Also, you may even (if you really want that Stravinskian of a dance) compose multi-metrically and use some unexpected accents, but as is, the piece does evoke a ritualistic kind of atmosphere. Good work.