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Old Oct 2 2006, 1:01 PM

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no joy with that either
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Old Oct 3 2006, 1:44 AM

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Well, I have tried one for the A-minor theme.
I've kept it simple with only two voices
this is so good!!!
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Old Oct 3 2006, 10:45 AM

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i tried again but it didn't work so i put it on yousedit, heres the link:
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.ph...82592d7b35ad3f
since uploading i've decided to kill the tie in the right hand from measures 10-11.

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Old Oct 3 2006, 8:55 PM

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Did someone order a fuge? I've been unable to upload for a few days, so it's not quite hot off the griddle.

This fuge runs for nearly 3½ minutes, at a tempo of 180 - so I've taken some liberties with the form for interest sake. There are places where counterpoint is definately missing and that is intentional.

I've done some other unorthodox things with this fuge-

-Use of natural minor mode (Aeolian) in a restatement.
-2 places of intended double dissonance/or extreme dissonance
-sections where the fuge is lost temporarily to less counterpoint

Some Techniques used:

-Inversion of partial theme(1st part/2nd part)
-Inversion of full theme
-Stretto
-Stretto with inversion
-Variant of partial theme with stretto
-short 1 bar cadenza (if this is not playable by string section, please let me know, I may get a little ambitious with strings sometimes)
-the use of a few "blue notes" because I was thinking of BE.

There are a few crossovers, they are intentional.
Double dissonance at 50-51 intentional, as extreme dissonance (Bb,B) on cadence chord at the end intentional.

Compositional time: A little over a month, while working on other music.

Comments welcome.

Brandon,

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Feel free to challenge my fugue-writing as well with one of your own [plausible] subjects in return.
I've written another fuge on this theme. I'm feeling free to challenge so this theme is included as the attachment "PaulDmTheme". Hope you're not going to ask me to write a fuge on every one of your subjects first though! :p
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Old Oct 6 2006, 8:31 PM
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I will attempt a fugue on your subject Paul, though there are a few things about it that need to be changed for me to want to work with it though, though they are very minor. I'll post it when I am finished.
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Old Oct 6 2006, 8:54 PM
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This is what I would like to develop:
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Old Oct 6 2006, 9:35 PM

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Hmm. I think that sort of defeats the purpose a little, unless you are changing the subject so that it is completely original? I think this is a workable subject. Like I've said, I've written a fuge on it, though short (1:24).

Fuges are alot of fun to write, and a good challenge. Perhaps I'll challenge later when I write another and maybe you will like that subject.
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Old Oct 6 2006, 10:25 PM
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I understand what you are saying, but I do not think the subject you gave me will yield the kind of result I would be proud of, so I have made changes to it to encourage my creativity. Coming up with beautiful and versatile subjects is an art in itsself, and the changes I made suit my writing style. If you'd rather, I won't bother with it, but there are things about the subject you gave which I find very awkard and unworkable. I have standards, and did offer an alternative.
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Old Oct 7 2006, 5:43 AM

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Feel free to write a fuge on the altered subject, if you like, Brandon. I personally felt that this thread was made more worthwhile with your given subjects that had to be worked into a fuge. It made it more of a challenge. The Gmajor is still giving me problems though

As far as standards go, I'm not sure what yours are, so that will make it rather difficult to challenge you with a subject.

Here's my fuge on the Dm theme I provided. It's short, I take license with it (for instance, the fourth entry is cut short, and I rely on incomplete statements quite a bit throughout, and intervalic licence). I wrote it during the same month as the Cm fuge, the experimental fuge in "crash course" and some other music I've been working on. I've received positive feedback on it, though. No one has said it's awkward. But hey..
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Old Oct 7 2006, 9:50 AM

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Hey, Paul, nice job with the Cmin subject. A very unique approach, using a very different harmonic language. Good work!

I think I've realized why I love the Cmin subject sooo much. Check out the fugue subject form Bach's Fantasy and Fugue in C minor, BWV 537, and compare. Our C min melody could almost be an elaboration of that one!

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