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Old Jun 15 2006, 4:32 PM

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Is it 6/8 then 3/4 then 6/8 then 3/4 etc.? =P
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Old Jun 15 2006, 9:32 PM

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Hahahah! The only way to describe that song would be "funny". Technically chaos, but omg it's great haha I loved it.
Ha! I feel the same way. It was... entertaining...
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Old Jun 16 2006, 1:06 PM

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Is it 6/8 then 3/4 then 6/8 then 3/4 etc.? =P
No. You could think of it as two measures of 3/8 together, if you want. But it's easier to read in 6/8, and it has that sort of feel. Could be written in 3/8, if you wanted.

I guess you could call it funny, though I think that pigeonholes it quite a bit. After the opening part in the major, I don't thnk it's funny at all. I suppose with a lot of changes it could be a character theme in a game or something. One of the light characters. It would have to stay with the idea of the first four measures.

I really don't understand 'technically chaos'. It is fairly steady and diatonic. It doesn't follow sonata form or whatever some people seem to feel is required of all music. I think it's a good piece because I was sort of humming bits of it before, and for a day or two after, I wrote it. Also, I feel an emotion listening to it. Not really sadness, just sympathy. Sympathy with myself, I guess?

To Alex_Pope: could you elaborate? Even if it's entirely negative. I would like that.
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Old Jun 16 2006, 1:49 PM

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I don't think it's technically chaos at all.

It flows in equal length phrases, it's in C major; has an interesting harmonic rhythm, it's exactly the right length, the balance between the theme and 'backing' is absolutement dead-on. Now I've heard it a few times I've got used to the melody cut at 18 secs. That caught me off guard on first hearing but it wouldn't make it technically chaos.

But we each have our opinion....

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Old Jun 16 2006, 9:52 PM

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Yeah, well even if I can't tell the time signature, I still like this piece a lot.
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Old Jun 17 2006, 6:32 PM

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I don't think it's technically chaos at all.

It flows in equal length phrases, it's in C major; has an interesting harmonic rhythm, it's exactly the right length, the balance between the theme and 'backing' is absolutement dead-on. Now I've heard it a few times I've got used to the melody cut at 18 secs. That caught me off guard on first hearing but it wouldn't make it technically chaos.

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Yeah, well even if I can't tell the time signature, I still like this piece a lot.
Damn straight, homesauce (and thank you).

I'm beginning to think some people here actually look down on music that is entertaining. Regardless of whether that's true, or just a figment of my imagination, it's a contradictory point of view. Music of any kind comes from the impulse to create, and that arises from a primal need to communicate. If a piece is entertaining....good. There's communication happening. Music is entertainment, and the mathematical/scientific aspect exists to serve that.

Yumminess is paramount, whether it's happy yumminess or a bitter, heart-rending kind. In my humble opinion.

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Not true...i say its technically chaos only because I dislike music with no form...or too much of it...
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Well, then I doubt you like Charles Ives. Anyway, that's a balance every composer strikes, and usually a different balance than other composers. Personally, I like music with "no form". I put that it quotes because there is always some kind of architecture, but not always any that fits a name. Like Art Tatum's Tiger Rag. I wouldn't say that fits any kind of form, but it drops the jaw of anyone hearng it for the first time. Or maybe a piece by John Cage or Philip Glass is more accesible. Anyway, I think forms are good for students. But to create a new piece for people to enjoy, I think it's a distraction.

I am a student, certainly. But I think forms are something I'll be reluctantly re-memorizing in Theory class, then winding up using later. I've forgotten them, mostly.

As for having too much form: what do you mean? I would venture that a person determined to use a form will use it, and one who is not will not. The joy of the music is determined by talent, experience, and spirit. My favorite fugue is No. 2 from the first book of the WTC, and I'm told that one is very formulaic. Even being sort of a anti-form guy, I love that piece. I also like Scarlatti. I think that the very most boring pieces are written by composers who rely on forms for the variety of their work, rather than their original creative spirit.

All this is not to say forms are useless. They are just not to be relied upon, in my opinion.
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This piece makes me want to make a song for pizzicato, maybe that's what I'll do when I'm done this random arabian-esque brass piece.
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For the purpose of the music... It fits perfectly (according to the description.) It is a break from some things that are tiring (such as the whole structure issue with composing)... It made me laugh... Other than the actual mechanics of playing (which are a little sloppy with, and need to be worked on... But I really did like it over all. It was cute.
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