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Piano Quintet No.1 in F min
This piece means a lot to me. In the time I've been writing, it I've experienced a lot of things, good and bad, neutral; and a lot of those experiences have come through in this music. I've grown rather attached to it over the years. In a lot of ways its been my companion and friend through my experiences and travels. I have grown in this work.
Despite all that, I would still welcome a listen and look from you all and would like to hear your thoughts on it.
I have decided to put in the program notes here a description of the work I wrote below in response to a comment that was made. It works well to help describe the motives behind this work.
At the time I started writing this I was fairly heavy into Philip Glass and some other minimalist works. Now, I’ve never really “loved” all of Glass’ stuff, even the Film Scores, but there are qualities and elements of Glass’ work that I appreciate. And the same goes for a lot of minimalistic work of his peers at the time he started down that path. Anyway, I wanted to take some of the elements of his work, and make it more “Tonal” with more defined melodies, which is something that I always took issue to regarding Glass’ music. So I started off on the path to writing the Piano Quintet, a form that I came to respect and love after playing and listening to Brahms’ and Dvorak’s in high school, and decided to put my concept to work in that instrumentation.
So, in this work we:
1. The minimalistic chord progressions - in multiple variations of the one chord progression, occasionally landing on the dominant major, which you’ll hear throughout all the movements, and yes a very pop (ular) method in today’s standard which was no accident. (thank you jcramer for pointing that out; I got a little chuckle reading that)
2. The use of compound meter in most sections - allowing easy access to hemiolas without having to use a whole lot of triplet brackets.
3. The occasional use of simple meter for the sections that just didn’t need to be written in three.
4. An aphoristic combination of the subsequent variations and recapitulations of the main motif.
This is the very basic makeup (DNA if you will) of the piano quintet; melodies and harmonies and instrumentational usage aside.
The first movement I started shortly after coming home from Afghanistan in 2007, so in my head this has been given a working title of "Home." It's carries an element of sadness and frustration in it I think that probably made its way into the piece through me. A lot happened in that year. I live by the sea and I wanted to portray an element of swaying throughout the movement. I remember coming home and always noting to myself how much I missed hearing the ocean while I was gone and how nice it was to hear see, and smell it again. This effect starts the movement off with the cello's swaying opening bars.
The second movement continues directly on from the first and is a complete change of pace, but not a change in key. There is some interesting orchestration work in this that I found fun and enjoyable. My wife has described it as the "little girl running through the woods" movement. While working on this piece I have given it the working title of "Running." It drives on hard from the moment is starts and doesn't stop until the end of the movement where it comes to an almost sudden slowing down, as if someone put the brakes on in a hurry. Like the rest of the quintet it’s very minimalistic in its style and its makeup and does not venture far from its original key, if at all. But I have found that despite its length, if you let it draw you in it will be over before you even realize it.
The only way to describe the third movement is "Lost," which is something I was working through during that year after coming home. I had no direction and no idea how to get it. And with that I was feeling pretty frustrated and down on myself. Then, I met my wife...
In the fourth would have to be the where I found myself, through my wife. So as you can imagine, the working title here would be "Found" and it goes through various emotions and stages and continues that aphoristic piecing together that is apparent through this entire work.
yet asking us "not to go too hard on it [as you are still] rather attached to this piece" leaves us little possibility as but stating that it is the most beautiful and excellent written piece the music literature has ever seen
It does have a kinda "just tell me I'm pretty" quality to it, huh? Well, I'm not too proud to admit that I'm a little sensitive about this work since it's been such a big part of my life for the last several years. But, if I wanted someone to tell me it was the greatest thing ever I would have played it for my mother, and not put myself out there on this website. So, you're comments are both appreciated and well noted. All of them.
The one thing I have lacked in great quantities since I started composing was any kind of real critique on my work. And despite my attachment to this piece I have to hear the opinions and advice from fellow composers and like minded individuals to get an "educated" objective view, because like my kids, I don't see nothing wrong,and its perfect the way it is. That is, until someone points something out to me. Besides, without comments like your's Wolfgang, I'll grow past what I at a much slower rate with just listening music and reading material about music and composing. So, thank you for your honest words. I will take it and consider what you've said with gratitude.
This isn't solved using some pizz notes! IMHO orchestration should never make up for lack of interest in other areas. In this case the piece hovers over Fm Eb Cm Db, which is pop(ular) progression that has been use so often, hardly anything news can be said.
That said, texture-wise you are able to let the tension grow. around min3 is a nice vivid section, with the sudden calming down. (and at the same time so much needed relief in new tonal regions).
Wolfgang, your initial comments have made me look at the music a little less "lovingly" and more analytically to the point that I'm now looking at taking all five movements apart and redoing a good majority of it. In fact, what is now considered "movement five" can kiss its proverbial butt goodbye because, to be honest, most of what makes it the fifth movement I’ve never really cared for.
As for all the other comments from you all, makwingka, Austenite, and jcramer, I see your point and would like to offer some explanation to the lack of modulating tonality so that maybe you can understand where I was coming from in this music. At the time I started writing this I was fairly heavy into Philip Glass and some other minimalist works. Now, I’ve never really “loved” all of Glass’ stuff, even the Film Scores, but there are qualities and elements of Glass’ work that I appreciate. And the same goes for a lot of minimalistic work of his peers at the time he started down that path. Anyway, I wanted to take some of the elements of his work, and make it more “Tonal” with more defined melodies, which is something that I always took issue to regarding Glass’ music. So I started off on the path to writing the Piano Quintet, a form that I came to respect and love after playing and listening to Brahms’ and Dvorak’s in high school, and decided to put my concept to work in that instrumentation.
So, in this work we:
1. The minimalistic chord progressions - in multiple variations of the one chord progression, occasionally landing on the dominant major, which you’ll hear throughout all the movements, and yes a very pop (ular) method in today’s standard which was no accident. (thank you jcramer for pointing that out; I got a little chuckle reading that)
2. The use of compound meter in most sections - allowing easy access to hemiolas without having to use a whole lot of triplet brackets.
3. The occasional use of simple meter for the sections that just didn’t need to be written in three.
4. An aphoristic combination of the subsequent variations and recapitulations of the main motif.
This is the very basic makeup (DNA if you will) of the piano quintet; melodies and harmonies and instrumentational usage aside.
I am going to go ahead and post the rest of this work. If you all are willing, I would greatly appreciate you all taking another listen to the music as a whole. I am not going to put up the “fifth movement” as it is not really a movement anymore and will most likely be incorporated into the rest of the piece. There is some good stuff in that movement and I want to hang onto it if I can. After which, I may still have five movements worth of material and may move the “lines” between movements. In the mean time I have some material here with me on Musical Form that I’m going to continue reading up on.
Thank you all again. If you are able and willing I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the rest of the piece.
Take Care and Best Regards,
Eric
Take care not to sound too defensive. I think the defensive tone is a result of you being attached to your work. That being said, I think it very good to strike-through the self-pity
From these movements you uploaded sofar I liked the 3rd the most. The phrases are longer, almost hymn-like. There is harmonicly a bit more going one and that makes is more interesting for me.
In the end I think it all is too long for me, too much repetition. But that is a taste based issue. I like some Glass. Violin concerto, Sax quartet concerto. But there is more harmonic alteration. Or at least two progressions that are alternated to build to a climax, etc. This results in a sense of direction.
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When commenting, one has always two possibilities, yet asking us "not to go too hard on it [as you are still] rather attached to this piece" leaves us little possibility as but stating that it is the most beautiful and excellent written piece the music literature has ever seen. Yet, I guess that you are little or nothing with a comment like that; yet I guess that you are aware that that is not the case either.
Sorry to tell you but for me your mouvement is too long as it is written now. There is not enough variation to have the listener keep his attention going, neither rythmiically, nor thematically nor in tonality. It stays in F minor upto 66 i guess and without any harmonical change, There it changes key for about 30 measures, yet remaining in those 30 measure you remain once again in the same tonality to return to F minor until the end of the piece. For nearly the entire mouvement your piano keeps on playing triods (?) (do not know whether that is the right name. What I mean are three notes on one beat) which gets a little tiring as well. The motif occurs, reoccurs and reappears again, yet with no variation, no alteration whatsoever.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings. I can understand that you are attached to your work. It has potential, but you need to put a scissor in your piece and have start writing it from scratch. Somebody once told me that composing is as writing: it is not so much what you put into it which matters, but what you leave out which makes your piece good. And sometimes less is indeed more than more.
Kind regards
WS