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Chamber Symphony
Scored for Oboe, Clarinet in Bb, Bassoon, Horn in F, and Strings.
This piece is based off of material that was originally composed as part of a ballet version of Pinocchio. After I decided that the music was not what I wanted it to be I reworked it in to this piece.
This piece is based off of material that was originally composed as part of a ballet version of Pinocchio. After I decided that the music was not what I wanted it to be I reworked it in to this piece.
12-tone is not use like that
it also the music lack of thematic system
I think you are wrong there, makwingka. 12-tone has nothing to do with the structural use of forms. 12 tone may not use key indications, nor certain notes to start and end, but I am very much afraid that even 12-tone uses a definite lay-out system, established in the past. Hence, what grounds do you have to consider your work a symphony? You could as well call it "apple with honey".
Secondly, "music lack of thematic system" ... I always wonder what people mean with that. Yet, my same remark is valid here: why call it a symphony? Why not call it a Phantasy or Odyssee.... Thematic systems and established forms can be detached from one another. But certain words stand for certain forms which stand for certain pre-defined ways of composing.
WS
Secondly, "music lack of thematic system" ... I always wonder what people mean with that. Yet, my same remark is valid here: why call it a symphony? Why not call it a Phantasy or Odyssee.... Thematic systems and established forms can be detached from one another. But certain words stand for certain forms which stand for certain pre-defined ways of composing.
WS
This piece doesn't strike to me as an example of 12-note-technique. It's completely atonal, yet has some strong tonal suggestions that come and go. Otherwise I agree with WS in regards to a thematic unity.
Hello everyone, I appreciate any attention given to my piece. I just wanted to say some more things about it. Everyone here who says it is not a real symphony is right. It isn't. I knew that while composing it. It is really just a patchwork of material that I didn't want to go to waste. There was a large amount of reworking and definitely some more composition involved in putting these parts together into something semi-coheriant. I know that the first movement does not meet the sonata-allegro standard. Nor does the last. The last is not a rondo or a any of the traditional forms either. And the middle is just a single theme with some different harmonic backdrops.
As far as the tonality goes, it is not 12 tone. I wasn't trying to use 12 tone. I don't know any better terms for what I was trying to do besides tuneful-dissonance.
haha I was not trying to present some groundbreaking piece that redefined chamber music. I was just left with two fast movements and a slow movement after composing and thought I would call it chamber symphony. It was either that or divertimento. And I thought to myself, "oh some symphonies have three movements, some even have less, and divertimenti usually have a few more than I have here". So it wasn't much of a deep thought process
Anyway, thank you all for posting! This was honestly my first time to use these tonal conventions and was hoping to get some feedback on that.
As far as the tonality goes, it is not 12 tone. I wasn't trying to use 12 tone. I don't know any better terms for what I was trying to do besides tuneful-dissonance.
haha I was not trying to present some groundbreaking piece that redefined chamber music. I was just left with two fast movements and a slow movement after composing and thought I would call it chamber symphony. It was either that or divertimento. And I thought to myself, "oh some symphonies have three movements, some even have less, and divertimenti usually have a few more than I have here". So it wasn't much of a deep thought process
Anyway, thank you all for posting! This was honestly my first time to use these tonal conventions and was hoping to get some feedback on that.
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Just listened to the first and second mouvement of your symphony. First impression: I do not really know what to say.... It seems rather rapsodic. You call it a symphony, yet I was unable to find the main traditional element which make up what a symphony is all about: a sonata form mouvement as the first part. I know that things have evolved since the classical era, but still there are still conventions which are kept, even in contemporary sounding music. As for your score, I will have a look into it during the weekend and will come back to you
Kind regards
WS