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  • Submitted: Jan 16 2012 04:21 PM
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A naked lunch suite - Help on harp part

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A naked lunch Suite. cuarteto para oboe, Clarinete bajo, Viola y Harpa op. 9 -




The suite consists of short scenes describing moments from William S. Burroughs book "The Naked Lunch" it's a quartet for oboe. bass clarinet, viola and harp ...
It's likely to be executed in a few months, and I'm just finished editing for print.
I can use some help from harpist about the enharmonic writing and if the piece is appropriate for the instrument .. the other parts are fine, but with the harp I have more problems ...
thank you all for your attention and when I finished this i will upload the complete version here.


Thanks. Emiliano A.

p.d. an apology for the poor editing of this part and midi is just for the meanwhile ....



Hi,

Well it currently looks confusing because there are no indication for pedals, just suddenly appears a C# and nobody said you were about to play a C#, just set for instance in bar 16 (in "A Taste of black meat" a text like:

D#, C#, B, E, F#, G#, A#

in bar 19 3rd tempo there's a sequence of Enat, Fnat, Fsharp, you gotta fix that, is not possible.

just add your Pedal Marks, and then check there not a note was not on your marks for instance the text above does not content an Db, so no Db notes are possible. Pedals can be changed easily, but not too fast.

Here is a site of an Harpist

bar 45 looks very difficult but I'm not harpist.
I checked this work because I have some doubts myself about the correct writing for harp. I've used the harp in a few of my own compositions, but I feel I could use it much more (BTW, SYS65, you suggested me to add it to my waltz, I'm curious). Thanks for sharing, Emiliano, you're not the only one seeking to learn.

PD. Tres hispanos hablando en inglés?????
jaja, hay que mantener la etiqueta... y el ingles britanico jajaja "Whot's hoppening herea ?"

Yes, Pedal marks should be there, come on, don't forget 99.9% of Harpists are women :D, be nice with them.

I'm don't use finale, but in Sibelius there's a plugin to check harp pedals, you just tell the current pedals position and it checks a certain passage, if there's a note can't be played it marks below the note (I thing, haven't done that recently).

it have been several topics about harp, I have posted several large explanations, just thing in a keyboard without black keys, and a pedal for each note, that can be set Sharp or Flat, and the harpists has only 2 feet :)
I'm going to look through this carefully this weekend, and I'll get back to you on Sunday if nobody else has. But, there are QUITE a few issues I see that are not impossible by ANY means, but stuff that can be easily fixed for clarity. :)

I'm fresh off my Instrumentation class on the Harp, so I'm all "harp-centric" this week. lolz
Hello! an apology for not responding on time but I had some problems with my connection. I am very grateful for all your comments ...

SYS65, on 17 January 2012 - 09:41 PM, said:

Hi, Well it currently looks confusing because there are no indication for pedals, just suddenly appears a C# and nobody said you were about to play a C#, just set for instance in bar 16 (in "A Taste of black meat" a text like: D#, C#, B, E, F#, G#, A# in bar 19 3rd tempo there's a sequence of Enat, Fnat, Fsharp, you gotta fix that, is not possible. just add your Pedal Marks, and then check there not a note was not on your marks for instance the text above does not content an Db, so no Db notes are possible. Pedals can be changed easily, but not too fast. Here is a site of an Harpist bar 45 looks very difficult but I'm not harpist.

Thank you very much your comments has been very helpful and i will review these measures, and will add some pedal marks ...
another question: I read that the harpists prefer no pedal markings in her part. How true is this? and should i keep to the basic indications or must be always indicated?
and does the noise from the pedal change very loud? (more for a work of chamber music)?

Thank you!

Morivou, on 18 January 2012 - 07:08 PM, said:


I'm going to look through this carefully this weekend, and I'll get back to you on Sunday if nobody else has. But, there are QUITE a few issues I see that are not impossible by ANY means, but stuff that can be easily fixed for clarity. :)I'm fresh off my Instrumentation class on the Harp, so I'm all "harp-centric" this week. lolz
yeah! i'm very grateful and look forward to your comments
And sorry for not anser in time but i have some problems with my connection,,, :)
hallo, im not an harpist and not so learned about it, but im not agree with the necessity of pedal indications: often harpists wanna write by yourself the changes in pedals (obviously, you have to write a playable score ....)

About the score, it seems to me very very difficoult: little time for pedal changes; complicated and fast rhythms; close intervals parallelism (which hand plays? one ? two ? is it possible ???); and all those "staccato" ? Harp is not an instrument for fast staccato.

It seems to me a piano score, not harp score.

Remember, this is only my opinion, 'couse im not much expert, but you need to simplify your score.

bye
this was helpful for me learning how to composer for harp, and it may or may not help you

http://www.harpspect..._for_harp.shtml
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