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- Submitted: Feb 12 2012 07:04 AM
- Last Updated: Feb 13 2012 04:54 AM
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- Genre: Romanticism
- Sub Genre: Neo-romanticism
- Form: Prelude
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Prelude II, or, Old Green Lake (one of a pair; see Prelude I)
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Hello Everyone,
I you guys will be able to take the time to listen to this and review it
. Just a few points to be made:
1. This prelude is one of a pair. It is meant to be listened to along with Prelude I. They form a contrasting pair; this is the repative placid counterpart of the rather ferocious Totentanz on a Small Plane. It would be lovely if you could take the time to listen to the first one and come to this after that. There are some suprising similarities between the two.
2. This prelude is programmatic/impressionistic, as the title suggests. Placid lake -- coming storm -- storm arrives -- raindrops (see cadenza) -- storm departs -- calm gradually returns. It's fairly blunt, but oh well.
3. There is only one melody in this prelude. Everything here -- including the haze of chords -- comes directly from the first two pages of material -- harmonies, phrasing, and so on. The prelude benefits from multiple listens -- things get much, much clearer.
4. The main theme of this prelude is irregularity -- hence the tuplets and irregular phrasing. The forms water takes are not often geometrically coherent -- I tried to capture that a bit. Hopefully you'll be able to tell me if I succeeded!
* Just recently changed some figurations and uploaded a much improved recording.
I you guys will be able to take the time to listen to this and review it
. Just a few points to be made:1. This prelude is one of a pair. It is meant to be listened to along with Prelude I. They form a contrasting pair; this is the repative placid counterpart of the rather ferocious Totentanz on a Small Plane. It would be lovely if you could take the time to listen to the first one and come to this after that. There are some suprising similarities between the two.
2. This prelude is programmatic/impressionistic, as the title suggests. Placid lake -- coming storm -- storm arrives -- raindrops (see cadenza) -- storm departs -- calm gradually returns. It's fairly blunt, but oh well.
3. There is only one melody in this prelude. Everything here -- including the haze of chords -- comes directly from the first two pages of material -- harmonies, phrasing, and so on. The prelude benefits from multiple listens -- things get much, much clearer.
4. The main theme of this prelude is irregularity -- hence the tuplets and irregular phrasing. The forms water takes are not often geometrically coherent -- I tried to capture that a bit. Hopefully you'll be able to tell me if I succeeded!
* Just recently changed some figurations and uploaded a much improved recording.
Wise words indeed. I'll add the files.
When I learned you had a new upload, I was eager to listen to it. I remember really enjoying the silly-yet-brilliant Totentanz you wrote, so I was curious as to what direction you would take it from there.
Sir ... you simply could not have done better!
I absolutely adore this 2nd prelude you have crafted here -- this is simply one of the most gorgeous things I have ever heard. It's like you took Debussey and mixed it with Rachmaninoff -- there's that sense of the river-flow of Impressionism, along with a "how is music like this even possible in this universe of reality?" surreal kind of world that Rachmaninoff was famed for.
Also, generally, I frown upon pieces that are incredibly difficult, if the reward for the time taken to learn the piece isn't equal to the quality of the music itself. That said, while this piece is sadistically difficult, the quality of the music is right up there with it.
Thank you for sharing this with us -- this is without a doubt one of my favorite pieces on the site
Sir ... you simply could not have done better!
I absolutely adore this 2nd prelude you have crafted here -- this is simply one of the most gorgeous things I have ever heard. It's like you took Debussey and mixed it with Rachmaninoff -- there's that sense of the river-flow of Impressionism, along with a "how is music like this even possible in this universe of reality?" surreal kind of world that Rachmaninoff was famed for.
Also, generally, I frown upon pieces that are incredibly difficult, if the reward for the time taken to learn the piece isn't equal to the quality of the music itself. That said, while this piece is sadistically difficult, the quality of the music is right up there with it.
Thank you for sharing this with us -- this is without a doubt one of my favorite pieces on the site
Aww thanks Serge, that's very nice. I'm also mildly chuffed that you in fact remembered the first prelude -- it was posted -- I'm not sure -- some three-ish months ago?
It know it'll sound very odd coming from me, but I don't care for difficulty by itself. I think this is one of those pieces that possibly looks harder than it sounds. The tuplets are intimidating -- but they do give a really nice, out-of-sync, dreamy, drifty sort of feel, wouldn't you say? It's rather stream-of-consciousness, which is really the best way I can put it. Imagine sitting on a small boat on a hot night in the middle of a lake, eyes closed, listening to the wind.
Odd point: the opening actually reminds me of "Evergeen", which is another excellent piece on this site.
I'm still incredibly unhappy about the repeated Gs in the left hand in the middle of the "storm", though. Anyone has any suggestions about getting rid of that monstrosity?
It know it'll sound very odd coming from me, but I don't care for difficulty by itself. I think this is one of those pieces that possibly looks harder than it sounds. The tuplets are intimidating -- but they do give a really nice, out-of-sync, dreamy, drifty sort of feel, wouldn't you say? It's rather stream-of-consciousness, which is really the best way I can put it. Imagine sitting on a small boat on a hot night in the middle of a lake, eyes closed, listening to the wind.
Odd point: the opening actually reminds me of "Evergeen", which is another excellent piece on this site.
I'm still incredibly unhappy about the repeated Gs in the left hand in the middle of the "storm", though. Anyone has any suggestions about getting rid of that monstrosity?
As promised a musical review as well (And thanks for combining the two mvsts)
I really like the harmonies used. The rhythmical 7 against 3 or 5 or 2 creates an almost improvisatory nature.
A downside IMO is that it is somewhat long, or I feel you keep using the same harmonic scheme over and over. For example ms 54-93 (I think I would label this as the A' in an A-A'-B-A-form) sounded a bit too much for me. But this is possibly due to my disliking of the virtuoso right hand part But it does fits in the impressionistic profile.
(And thanks for combining the two mvsts)I really like the harmonies used. The rhythmical 7 against 3 or 5 or 2 creates an almost improvisatory nature.
A downside IMO is that it is somewhat long, or I feel you keep using the same harmonic scheme over and over. For example ms 54-93 (I think I would label this as the A' in an A-A'-B-A-form) sounded a bit too much for me. But this is possibly due to my disliking of the virtuoso right hand part
But it does fits in the impressionistic profile.Thanks for the feedback! I agree -- indugence will be the death of me. I thought that the harmonic scheme would bear repeating, since it was a prelude and the middle section does provide some harmonic respite, no? Will consider rewriting A' to make it more streamlined though. Also, is there a specific thingy about the RH there that you don't like? I know it sounds melodically rather disembodied, but I got the impression that it grows on the ear... maybe I'm mistaken, though.
Glad you find it improvisatory -- that was certainly a big part of what I was going for.
Also, is there a specific thingy about the RH there that you don't like? I know it sounds melodically rather disembodied, but I got the impression that it grows on the ear... maybe I'm mistaken, though.Glad you find it improvisatory -- that was certainly a big part of what I was going for.
Please do not change anything because just some guy (in this case me) said he didn't like it. You do not write to please me 
And, yes, the mid-section is alternating enough and provides, both in harmony and texture a great contrast.
And concerning my personal preferences. I like it plain and simple. Just mere scales and embellishments are often distracting. I can't really tell why. But again. It fits in the genre you choose, so you can keep it.
you're the boss
And, yes, the mid-section is alternating enough and provides, both in harmony and texture a great contrast.
And concerning my personal preferences. I like it plain and simple. Just mere scales and embellishments are often distracting. I can't really tell why. But again. It fits in the genre you choose, so you can keep it.
you're the boss
Xiangyik: I can really add absolutely nothing to the excellent comments of both Serge and JrCramer (esp. the "Rachmaninov meets Debussy" by Serge, which nicely describes the mood of the piece). I remember too the other piece (not only for its quality but also for its somewhat unnerving title). But it's safe to say I enjoyed this one better, not the least because of its improvisatory character. Nice work!
Thanks muchly! I was worried that the wafer-thin feel of this prelude would put people off, but apparently it's working out fine, which is a huge relief.
On a different note, Prelude III is in the works and should be out soon!
On a different note, Prelude III is in the works and should be out soon!
Yes, what shall I say?
Your pieces touched me, overwhelmed me, so I didn´t dare to comment at first. Now, after listening again, especially the combination of the two parts makes a great impression on me. I am very curious how your 3rd part will look like.
The two first ones already are a masterpiece in my eyes, so be careful with the next one.
Thanks for sharing!
Stephan
Your pieces touched me, overwhelmed me, so I didn´t dare to comment at first. Now, after listening again, especially the combination of the two parts makes a great impression on me. I am very curious how your 3rd part will look like.
The two first ones already are a masterpiece in my eyes, so be careful with the next one.
Thanks for sharing!
Stephan
O.O Wow, that's really flattering -- I'm really, really. happy they made you feel that way. Of course, there is now the very real possibility that my next prelude will leave you sorely disappointed. It's not meant to be "bundled" with these two, as it were, though it is also part of the (eventual) set of 24 preludes that I plan to write, so listening together might still be good.
Also, rate the piece if you can! At least it'll give my a rough numerical gauge of opinion without my having to read through all the reviews over and over again. (Which I sometimes do when tweaking a piece.)
Of course, there is now the very real possibility that my next prelude will leave you sorely disappointed. It's not meant to be "bundled" with these two, as it were, though it is also part of the (eventual) set of 24 preludes that I plan to write, so listening together might still be good. Also, rate the piece if you can! At least it'll give my a rough numerical gauge of opinion without my having to read through all the reviews over and over again. (Which I sometimes do when tweaking a piece.)
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the score looks interesting. first bars sound like a nice hazy modal blur. really impressionistic.
one more organisational comment though. If this is one of a pair I strongly suggest you add this movement to the old one. I find it most satisfying when the player automaticly continues to the next movt;)
btw it helps to compare the movements even better.
multi movement uploads strongly recommended.
but i'll be back for a musical review too:)