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  • Submitted: Sep 07 2011 03:44 PM
  • Last Updated: Jan 18 2012 03:48 PM
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  • Genre: Early 20th Century
  • Sub Genre: Neo-romanticism
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Lament for Strings Op.35

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Lament for Strings op.35




...no sabia que amar estaba mal.

(I didn't know it was wrong to love)



So very expressive, Daniel. And I'm, again, so sorry for what's happened (from what I have gathered). This is very beautiful.
Very expressive indeed, though somtimes it seemed to lose it's momentum it stil managed to keep me captivated. Such deep sorrow.
Very nice piece, as the others have noted. However, as a string player, the notation is very off... the big thing is for the cellos, you don't need...really any treble clef at all in this piece. It needs TENOR clef, which fits the range of this piece quite well. The furioso section, with the sharps, should be flats, keeping it consistent through the piece, so as not to confuse the players. The only other things I'd say is to have a break here and there. I know you have 1 or 2, but there needs to be a little pause... maybe 1 or 2 more times. The last thing is in bar 125, the non-divisi pp fifths in the bass will be almost impossible to play that quietly.... reserve that for loud music like the rite of spring :)

Other than that, this is a very, very nice piece. I enjoyed the chordal harmony a lot!

Good work!
@Elizabeth:

Oh Liz Muchas Gracias, I'd like to be able to return your hug, someday maybe.

@Beethovenbd:
Thanks, the "lose its momentum" is one thing could be interpenetrated in several ways, I'm not sure what to say, but I'll say this, I didn't plane this work, I usually don't write this kind of stuff, I only had all that sorrow in my soul and I wrote it to relieve myself of it, (and works because I feel better) but I was not in what I could call a "normal" or "optimal" state when I wrote this, (this few past days) may sounds as excuse but I just wrote and wrote, no idea what's its form or any technical matter, just feelings, and it contains one of those long waitings, but waiting for nothing actually, just long moments when you think and time seems to stop. Like I said I'm not expert in these styles, it had to happen that a woman smashed my heart so I decided to write something like this, and did it truly fast actually, as fast as never, a few days.

@Graham.
Thanks. I made the score rapidly today, because this work I wrote it in a DAW (FL Studio) is not a notation software, but it where you use the libraries, and make a better recording, I didn't want some horrible strings for this or would be impossible to tolerate the 10 minutes, so I used Sonic Implants, it still lacks of realism but I'm learning that....
I exported as MIDI an imported into Sibelius, I don't know if you have done that but the score is created horribly, I'll check those sharp/flats, but what you say about the tenor clef for the cellos, ... you sure ? I think cellos look very strange with tenor clef, I've seen more the use of the treble, but anyway, I'll check the score.

What do you mean notation is very "off" ?
(I'm string player too)
at 125 there's I see no problem at all to play Bb+F in pp, why ? (Oh I play bass too :) ) I can set divisi ....

No change will be made on its form, I don't feel it necessary and I don't re-do form, or I'll spoil what I wrote.

Thanks all, I suppose this is not a "easy to listen" piece, is not for me either.
I loved this. The harmonies where nice, lush. Although I would have liked to see even some more harsh chords, something else than the diatonic adding of 2nds and 7ths.
The furioso section was a bit pale. The harmonies are good, but in the texture I would have expected at least one group os string going frenzy, anger, only to calm down in sadness again. While the shortest note values (nota bene! a quarter) can be found here. I would expect 16ths broken chords, or at least tremolos. Go mad...

I understand this is a very personal piece. So if you feel like it should not be analyzed or commented upon, give the word, and I'll stop. If not, I hope my remarks are helpful.
Thanks for sharing.
I really enjoyed this piece Sys. Although, I agree with jrcramer, that furioso section could be so much more furioso. Con entesidad, mi hermano. Creo que el furioso es la unica parte en la piesa que puede ser mejorado. De parte de eso, me gusto bastantante. Las harmonias son hermosos y no habia ninguna parte en donde no me fije en la musica. Felicidades, esta pieza es uno de tus mejores.

Perdon por el espanol, no lo escribo muy bien (lo hablo muy bien xD).
@Jaap:
Thanks, I did try more harsh chords, but the original theme is very simple, Dm, Gm, A, then I made some more complex chords but not too much because I felt it was like a contradiction in language, I rejected many chords, they simply didn't fit, it was like loosing the original ambient, in the ff part I included some more disonant chords but only a few ones.
the "go mad" maybe didn't happen because is when you're too sad that you don't even have strength get upset well, besides this part is about something a bit different.

I think the word "Furioso" is wrong there, I'm gonna remove it or change it, this is not furious, is only when you say "ok is enough, you take a deep breath, dry your tears and stand up to go on, you shake yourself a bit, but that is all, you do feel a little upset but not too much, not enough to go mad, because you know somehow getting furious won't solve a thing.
All those acrobatics could have been written here, will have to wait for other piece.

@Morgri, (the same above the "furious") Gracias, tu español esta bastante bien, no dejes de practicar :) yo escribo el ingles pero nunca hablo con nadie...
I'm glad you liked, and you didn't lose the attention through the piece, this one can be easily taken as boring, if the person is not used to listen beyond the common stuff, but that's not your case of course.

So... I need another word to replace that "Furioso" because is not what I wanted to say, and.... you agree with graham about the tenor clef for cello ?
If you need an ear to talk to, I'm "hear" for you :)

SYS65, on 07 September 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

but what you say about the tenor clef for the cellos, ... you sure ? I think cellos look very strange with tenor clef, I've seen more the use of the treble, but anyway, I'll check the score. What do you mean notation is very "off" ?(I'm string player too)at 125 there's I see no problem at all to play Bb+F in pp, why ? (Oh I play bass too :) ) I can set divisi .... No change will be made on its form, I don't feel it necessary and I don't re-do form, or I'll spoil what I wrote.


Yes, 100% sure. It's Tenor clef-fit :) haha. i guess if you don't read tenor clef, which I don't, and I agree with this: it's CONFUSING!

No B flat and F is easy enough. But I'm afraid how they're gonna keep it at pp, and not "HELLO HERE ARE THE BASSES". I don't play bass, but if you think it's okay, keep it :)

Of course! This is your piece, your structure, not anyone else's :)

Hope that helps!
Heckel
Well, I have updated the score, I now use the tenor clef for cello, but it still contains a few treble clefs, Graham is not my intention to ignore you but those notes were like 5-6 additional lines above... who can read that ?

I changed the "Furious" word to "Resignation", I think is more clear now what that last part is about.

(Also fixed the sharp for flats)

I guess is my final version of this piece, Thank you all for your comments, and your support.
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