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- Submitted: Oct 30 2011 04:58 PM
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- Genre: Early 20th Century
- Form: Prelude
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Odysseus
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Hello all,
I would like to present here what is a preliminary draft of the prelude of what I would wish to be able to call an oratorium, but for which the name cantate would be more fitting i guess.
"Odysseus" is supposed to become an alternative version of the story to the one told by Homer. Here, the hero becomes an anti-hero. Being fed up staying at home the whole time, near to his wife, he wants to explore the world as he knows it. Hence, he invents a story of how he is called to participate in the well-known war which eventually will last in him staying away for years. Even if you read Homer, Odysseus is not at all that eager to return enjoying the pleasures of beautiful women everywhere.
The cantate is based on Greek Folk Dances, linked together by a narrative, hence the music is mainly rembetiko. If you are looking for complicated harmonics, I have to disappoint you: Rembetiko is based on a basic harmonic scheme, rather using full chords and basic degrees which is what I also have done in this reworking of some of the Greek folk Dances.
As to the sound file: I work with Sibelius 9. There are limitations: pizz is only given when not using human playback. When not using human playback for the pizz, I do not get a tremolo when written. Claves should be added but they are not as the sound is not rendered by Finale, as is the same for the grosse caisse. (see my other posting in technical issues)
Your comments and criticism would be highly appreciated. A comment like "I like this, this is good" is very welcome, nevertheless, it would be even better to know as to why you find it so good, and why you like it.
Criticism even a very negative one, can be given constructively, which is what I would love to hear. I would love to know as to why you do not like it, or as to why you object to it. Criticism can be given politely, it is nobody's idea to hurt any other fellow composer here, so be gentle, yet straight to the point
Thanks in advance.
Wolfgang Sachs
I would like to present here what is a preliminary draft of the prelude of what I would wish to be able to call an oratorium, but for which the name cantate would be more fitting i guess.
"Odysseus" is supposed to become an alternative version of the story to the one told by Homer. Here, the hero becomes an anti-hero. Being fed up staying at home the whole time, near to his wife, he wants to explore the world as he knows it. Hence, he invents a story of how he is called to participate in the well-known war which eventually will last in him staying away for years. Even if you read Homer, Odysseus is not at all that eager to return enjoying the pleasures of beautiful women everywhere.
The cantate is based on Greek Folk Dances, linked together by a narrative, hence the music is mainly rembetiko. If you are looking for complicated harmonics, I have to disappoint you: Rembetiko is based on a basic harmonic scheme, rather using full chords and basic degrees which is what I also have done in this reworking of some of the Greek folk Dances.
As to the sound file: I work with Sibelius 9. There are limitations: pizz is only given when not using human playback. When not using human playback for the pizz, I do not get a tremolo when written. Claves should be added but they are not as the sound is not rendered by Finale, as is the same for the grosse caisse. (see my other posting in technical issues)
Your comments and criticism would be highly appreciated. A comment like "I like this, this is good" is very welcome, nevertheless, it would be even better to know as to why you find it so good, and why you like it.
Criticism even a very negative one, can be given constructively, which is what I would love to hear. I would love to know as to why you do not like it, or as to why you object to it. Criticism can be given politely, it is nobody's idea to hurt any other fellow composer here, so be gentle, yet straight to the point
Thanks in advance.
Wolfgang Sachs
Thx for the comments and suggestions on the trumpet, Baxton. I will have a look at it and will treat them, perhaps to a lower register, to sound more uniform with the second trumpet, perhaps as you suggested, as a solo-instrument.
Kind regards
WS
Kind regards
WS
Yeah I agree the rhythmn is nice here. You also have some quadruple stops in your viola and cello parts - are they really necessary? At the tempo you have I think they will sound very blurry and it will be difficult to have those done in time. Now as a pizz it works well as the tone will decay and it is just plucking the strings - as long as hand positions don't go all over the place. Also the switch to pizz from that double stop in cello is not going to be executed well - they will need more time. If you want those chords you could mark it divisi.
Basic piece of advice - don't be fooled by the computer playback. It makes some things far easier or possible than it really is - and it has limits.
Basic piece of advice - don't be fooled by the computer playback. It makes some things far easier or possible than it really is - and it has limits.
thanks for your advice composerorganist. I will look into it. You are right. The score was originally written for four sets of celli and three viola's, but at this stage I reworked the string part to only one system, yet I forgot to mark divisi in certain places. Thanks for your advice, kindly appreciated.
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Your trumpet part goes very high, and unless the trumpet player is very skilled, it will likely create a dynamic imbalance by drowning out the other instruments. Consider writing "solo" for those parts.
Your modulation at measure 25 sounds odd to me because it is incongruous with the other elements you have written. However, I can see those chords becoming material for a new theme, thus letting that section in your prelude make more sense on the whole.
To me, your rhythms in this piece is the most effective element in your piece. Which is a good thing because so many composers use such boring, typical rhythmic structures.
hmm. I don't think the entire MP3 uploaded. I wanted to hear more