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  • Submitted: Nov 12 2011 03:11 PM
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  • Genre: Contemporary
  • Sub Genre: Neo-classicism
  • Form: Piano Trio

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Scherzo and Trio

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Piano Trio 2nd movement




First new chamber work in ages. Oh well.

Programme notes:

II. Scherzo

The form of the piece, as it stands now, is ABTrioAB. The entire piece is derived from a tone row (F#BCEbAbBbC#GAFED). The tone row is divided into four cells. Each cell consists of three notes in the order of the tone row (i.e. F#BC, EbAbBb, etc.) The first three cells are assigned to a section (A, B and Trio, respectively). In the recapitulation, the B section is transposed to the first cell.

Please disregard the above if it hinders your ability to comment or give criticism in any way.



Dear goodness... I'm not going to lie. If this wasn't TOTALLY bad donkey, I would hate it. hahahahahaha.

You're really lucky, cause it is TOTALLY bad donkey. :D
Composer Phil
Nov 13 2011 03:33 PM
I'm interested in hearing your organization of non-pitch materials. As well as this: how did you go about conceiving your row? I notice the presence of a fifth in the vector of the 2 example cells: are you going for quasi tonality? I generally like what you have, but would like to hear some more about the process.
Maybe it's the rendering, but some parts of this sounded a bit too too chaotic for me, in the sense that all I could hear was some sort of messy texture. Another extremely minor thing--I would ignore it if there was really anything else bad to say--was pauses between sections. I felt you had one too many of those.

Have I ever said that your style is original? (well, relatively) Because that's what I'm feeling right now. TOTALLY badass.
You already know how I feel about you as a composer, so I will strive to be bit more critical this time about the music here ^_^

First, I second Ian's comment about the overly-messy feel the piece has at times. I think a place which shows that is at measures 29-30, for example -- the strings are just so completely indistinguishable as separate voices, and come across as just screeching a violin randomly. The strings work best when the themes are clearly defined, i.e., measure 66.

Also, at measures 47-48, and about measures 51-54ish, there's this certain "sound" that I hear, that is featured very prominently in several of your compositions I've heard. I don't really know how to describe it -- like octave twiddlings, playing it down a half-tone the next time you state it. Not a bad sound at all, and normally, I would find it nice that you have a certain "sound" that a listener can identify with. But in many ways, I don't think that nice, identifiable sound really works with you as a composer. You're a freaky, dangerous, outside-the-box composer, and this extra dimension is a bit unwelcome, honestly. If you're going to be uninviting, go all the way.

In short, just be careful not to be too "samey", or rely on a certain technique or sound too much. (I know, I know, I've got to work on the same thing myself!)

I think that's about all I have to say, in regards to criticism -- but your music is truly way above my head, in many ways, so it's up to you to decide whether I'm worth listening to or not.

I really enjoyed listening to this piece -- totally awesome stuff! :phones:
I partially want to second ellements of all of above posts.

with ian. The texture sounded somewhat messy, and I think there could have been more variety in it. there is a somewhat chordal texture, but the most time it is a multitude of notes that saturates the ears.

with c.ph. I want to hear some of the inner workings. I know you have thought this through really well. I like how you tried to let the row guide your form as well. I like the somewhat tonal sound in it. I really love that. And more in general, I love to see you are developing yourself, and growing as a composer.
Composer Phil
Nov 20 2011 03:46 PM
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