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  1. First and foremost; I do not know anything about string playing. As a result of such inadequacy, there are maybe some double stops (don't think triple stops) that are a bit hard to play. I've had a friend look at it, and I've had the string teacher at my school look at it. My friend the string teacher is convinced that it is almost definitively a college piece. I just wanted to write a fugue. P.s. The ending might be a little. inappropriate. it was meant to be funny but now that i look at it after the fact, I think I might implore a different last few bars.
  2. Hello, I want to make a piano cover of the song Agape by Bear's Den. I've already looked in the internet for a music sheet but no results. I found a video on youtube of a cover which sounds perfect, however I can't see properly which chords he's playing and there's no music sheet provided. This is the video So please, if you could help me I'd be really grateful. Thank you
  3. What pieces have you started writing and KNOW you need to finish them!!??!!??!
  4. I think it is rather easy to become like a train as a composer, following the path or tracks one has created for oneself (or that have been laid down for one), more or less oblivious to what other composers are doing. Indeed, at some level that is essential; for in no other way would one be able to become a composer, an original composer, to forge one's own path as a composer. And yet, one can become too fixed in one's tracks, too much on autopilot as regards one's formula of composition. How then does one introduce novelty? (Or how does one develop, evolve, or progress as a composer?) I think the challenge would be to introduce novelty but not "novelty for the sake of novelty". How does one do that? Indeed, can one even do it deliberately? Perhaps the challenge is to find the right balance between novelty and a recognizable style. Or to unconsciously pursue novelty, to be upon a course of unconscious evolution along the path forged by one's compositional style. What are your thought and insights about this?
  5. New here. Is this the right place for a technical question? About Sibelius notation. So I tend to think of an accent (>) as shortening the note it sits over. Sibelius playback apparently does not, it just boosts the velocity/attack on the the note. So I have written > over . on the notes to get a short and accented note. Which do you think the players would rather see? My take is that the accent makes SPACE around the note, so it's going to shorten it somewhat, but not the 50% you get from a staccato. so > over . is hit harder AND stopped at 50% of length. Would you rather have > over . ?
  6. Does it constitute the creation of art of universal value? Or does it constitute spiritual revelation? Or is it an intellectual act with an intellectual rather than an artistic product? Does it constitute a message to humanity? Does it constitute a manifestation of human civilization, of human culture? More negatively perhaps, do composers via their compositions seek their own glory, attention, and praise? Does composition at some level constitute an instance of the vain human motivation of seeking recognition and praise? On the other hand, what is the contribution of composition - that a composer makes via composition - to life, to society, and to human history?
  7. Do you ever record them and store them on your computer to be able to easily access whenever you are in the mood of composing and are in need of a theme? That's what I do.
  8. Hi all, I am currently studying a music degree and i need to get different composers views on how they compose. My research project is about the compositional devices and techniques that different composers use in order to convey specific emotions and metaphors to the audience, all music should evoke some sort of emotion within the listener and my research project is dedicated to finding out how composers manage to do this. There are 4 questions to this questionnaire and if you could spare some time to share some of your knowledge I would greatly appreciate it and it would help my project immensely! These are the 4 questions: 1.Which elements of composition do you find are the most effective with regards to conveying emotion and feeling through your music? Instrumentation, tempo, key/mode, time signatures/time change, arrangement etc.? Please explain why you find these effective. 2.Do you find any of the above elements particularly effective when trying to convey a specific emotion such as anger, Love or sadness etc.? Why do you find these so effective? 3.How much interaction is there between yourself and the director of the film which you are composing for? Does the director offer much input regarding the music and why do you feel the director offers this input (if any)? 4.What compositional advice would you give anyone who was faced with the challenge of conveying thoughts and emotions through their music? If you can manage the time to help me out with my project by answering these questions you would be helping me out a great deal! Thanks for your time
  9. Hi, i a have a Bachelor in Music Composition. Classical stuff, academic music. Afeter finishing my studies bac in 2008, i´ve been doing mainly contemporary popular music, influenced by tango, world music, rock and jazz. I am now looking for a place to do a master in composition, Europe o USA are my favorites. But i dont know which place will be good to develop composition technique in an "ECM" style, of course, looking for my personal voice. I have a few pieces os my Quintet, which show my personal style/search and level. Know good places to check? I imagine NYU would be a pretty good place... Would love to hear your opinions... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnq3ptAAfrA&list=PLC4Bl1ZWyLBEJ3KDyCl2SKy95_7EpyHG4
  10. How committed are you to your compositional style? How much do you feel you should stick to the style that you have so far usually composed in? Do you feel diverging from it is a strength, or a weakness? Do you think writing in multiple styles is a strength, or a weakness? Do you think the management of your compositional style - whether you stick to your extant style of diverge from it - and even the very creation of a style to begin with, is a conscious and deliberate process? Or is it rather an unconsciously, naturally occurring matter over which you have little or no control?
  11. Hello everyone ! :) I kindly request you to excuse me for the disturbance, but as presently student in Master's degree in Economics & Psychology at Panthéon-Sorbonne and Paris Descartes (and I'm also a musician since my 6 years old), I'm in search of composers for an experience on feedback in music composition within the framework of my master thesis. The experiment consists in making up a short composition of 8 measures, then to suggest modifications on the composition of another participant. Then, there is the possibility to modify its own composition. In extra, there is an Xperia Sony Z3 tablet Compact to win by drawing lots for people arriving at the end of the experiment :) I shall largely be grateful to you if you agreed to participate in it and if you pass it in your concerned circle of acquaintances ! Best regards, Olivia L
  12. When I compose for the piano I can't help falling back to an easy listening - light classical genre... You can find 2 recent pieces here... https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=composerpj86 The third piece was an improvisation from a cd that I made a few years ago.
  13. Hi everyone , I have any question :) . Firstly my English is very bad. So I'm sorry . I'm composition student at university and I have scholarship but my class is preparation . My Professor and my friend says my compositions very good but I'm writing tonal music but I cant write contemporary music . example : I cant write Whole tone music or I cant write like Stravinsky . What can I do ? I want to write contemporary music , whole tone and like stravinsky . My Professor said that so early but my other Professor said that you can start contemporary . What can I do ? :) Thak you . I'm sorry for my english is very bad.
  14. Hello fellow young composers! We're three young composers based in Sydney, Australia organising an exciting project - an opportunity for composers to come together and create a new, collaborative work "in 4." inspired by Terry Riley's "in C.". This work will be performed a fantastic collective of musicians in Sydney, Australia. We have already received many submissions from all around the world and would love more composers to be a part of this project. In order to create this work, we're asking you to submit ONE cell of written music that creatively and appropriately reflects the number "4". There is no limit to how and what you notate, however, if conventional notation is used it must be written in the treble staff. The cell must be written for an "open ensemble" (see below for FAQ). The submitted cells will then be curated by our team into a new, collaborative work - to be performed by a quartet of quartets. Send your submission to info@themusicboxproject.com (.pdf and any image file types will be accepted) with the subject "in 4 submission" and include your name. A confirmation email will be sent upon submission. FAQ What exactly are you planning to do with my cell of music? In the same vein as Terry Riley's in C., we hope to arrange the submitted cells into a single work. This process of organising and arranging the material into a cohesive work will be completed by a team of Sydney based composers. If we receive 53 submissions we have the chance of creating a record breaking, collaborative composition. What is an open ensemble? The idea of "open instrumentation" or an "open ensemble" means that you have to consider that your cell will be performed (with limited modification) by any/combination of instruments. Cells which work most effectively in this way will more likely be chosen. MORE INFORMATION: http://www.themusicboxproject.com/project-in-4 Thanks the music box project. team :nod: :nod: :nod:
  15. Hi all, I'm new here, this is my first post. I know nothing about making music, at all. I tried picking up a couple different instruments in my youth, but never stuck to it and lost interest. The thing is, I have tons of songs in my head that I really want to get out onto paper, computer, recording, something? I come up with them all the time, not even meaning to, but they get stuck in my head, and I want to get them out. The songs are complete in terms of music, just no lyrics there. Any advice on what to do here? I don't know how to compose or play any instruments so I could record, and even if I could play one instrument, for example the piano, I would have to learn many instruments in order to record an entire song. Is there some kind of software that will help me here? Thanks in advance.
  16. I'm sure that most of you know that writing out music is very time consuming, whether you're spending 20 minutes on drawing your staff neatly for your notes to sit on, or constantly erasing notes on Finale because your mouse slipped by a centimeter and placed a Snare Drum buzz roll instead of a rim shot. Over the years of composing marching percussion music, I've developed another method of composing music that may prove useful to composers with limited time. Because this is so different in comparison to the notation that has always been used throughout the history of music, this probably won't gain any popularity at all among percussion composers. But I guess this is worth a shot, since it works for me, and might work for you. So let me begin presenting to you what I call the "Alphabet Notation" for rhythm or percussion. This is what one measure of rest looks like: / [ . . . . ] [ . . . . ] [ . . . . ] [ . . . . ] / / = measure bar [] = one count . = 16th subdivision of a measure A note's value is determined by the number of "." subdivisions that follow it (A 1/16th note having no following subdivisions, an 1/8th note having one following subdivision, and a 1/4 note having 3). Keep in mind that one count can fit four 16th notes in it. The classic "Eights" warm-up would look like this: TD (4/4) / [ 1 . 1 . ] [ 1 . 1 . ] [ 1 . 1 . ] [ 1 . 1 . ] / [ 2 . 2 . ] [ 2 . 2 . ] [ 2 . 2 . ] [ 2 . 2 . ] / And so on... BD (4/4) / [ 1 . 1 . ] [ 1 . 1 . ] [ 1 . 1 . ] [ 1 . 1 . ] / [ 2 . 2 . ] [ 2 . 2 . ] [ 2 . 2 . ] [ 2 . 2 . ] / And so on... SD (4/4) / [ R . R . ] [ R . R . ] [ R . R . ] [ R . R . ] / [ L . L . ] [ L . L . ] [ L . L . ] [ L . L . ] / And so on... For tenor and bassline, notes are represented by numbers corresponding to drum size. s = Spock Drum 1 S = Spock Drum 2 5 = Bass 5 X = rimshot x = stick click r = on the rim For snareline: R/L = right or left hand for each note Rr/Ll = flam notes Rz/Lz = buzzed notes X = rimshot x = stick click r = on the rim Tremolo is tricky, but hear me out. As most of you know, a tremolo line divides the notes value by two and fills the original value with notes of the new value. (A 1/4 note with a tremolo sounds like two eight notes; an 1/8th note with a tremolo sounds like two 16th notes.) In alphabet notation, consider this and maintain the count's value of four 16th subdivisions. When adding tremolo lines in this notation, you need to cancel out the subdivisions that the sound of the tremolo note goes over in that count. For example: (4/4) / [ R . L . ] [ R . L . ] [ R, L, ] [ R, L, ] // The first two counts are normal. But on counts three and four, you can see that I didn't include the second and fourth subdivisions on that count. That's because with the "," tremolo line, the eight note's value doubles into the next subdivision. Applying this concept may become increasingly difficult with drags on 16th notes, thus creating 32nd notes. To put it somewhat simple, you eliminate the "." subdivision that is played over with the preceding tremolo note. Two tremolo lines indicate a double stroke roll, which is basically 32nd notes filling the value of the original note. When placing two tremolo lines on a "[ R . . . ]" quarter note, you would write [ R,, ] since the entire count is played through, leaving no room for "." subdivisions. When placing two tremolo lines on "[ R . R .]" one of two 1/8th notes, you would write [R,, R . ] since the roll fills the 1/8th note value, leaving no room for the subdivision after the "R." Moving on, triplet figures indicated by underlining. For example, (4/4) / [ R L R L R L ] [ R . R L L ] [[ R Rl Rl ]] / [ R L R ] [ L R L ] [ R . . . ] [ R L L ] / [ R . . . ] [ . . . . ] [ . . . . ] [ . . . . ] // **Envision the bracket topped with a "3" that indicates a triplet figure in traditional notation.** The first count in the first measure presents a sextuplet figure, while the second count presents an regular 1/8th note followed by a triplet figure of 1/8th notes. For figures that last more than one count, you can combine the count brackets like I did in the first measure. It presents a triplet figure of quarter notes in the third and fourth counts. And in the second measure, the first, second and fourth counts present 1/8th note triplet figures, with a regular quarter note on the third count. Time signature in boldface preceding the first measure. Dynamics can be placed before the count in which it should be expressed in italics or cursive. Crescendos/Decrescendos between counts. For example: TD (4/4) / f [ 1 . 2 2 ] [ 3 . 4 . ] [ 3, 2, ] [ 1, S . ] / [ 1 1 1, ] > [ 2 2 2, ] > [ 3 3 3, ] > [ 4 4 4, ] > / p [ 4 . 4 4 ] [ . 4 4 . ] [ 4 . . . ] [ . . . . ] // >/< = crescendo or decrescendo And Accents indicated by bold faced notes. I'm sure most of you understand that one count consists of 4 16th subdivisions. That's basically what this notation is based on. There are no rests, you're pretty much looking at the subdivisions for each count and plugging in the notes from there. I believe this can make music translatable through keyboard without needing a special program. And when writing music by hand, this can safe the time-consuming preparations, like drawing the 5-line staff. And this is new, so of course, there's tons of room for evolution if Alphabet Notation turns out useful to anyone else.
  17. It's been a while since I've been on here. I have put dreams of writing a symphony off until I can manage a small-scale piece (solo piano, for instance), and spent the month of June writing a little bit of something (new) each day. Got through thirty days and had some good ideas in the mix, but the largest problem I had was developing them beyond the 8-10 bars that I'd constructed. That's another issue. I wrote this and somewhat unintentionally expressed the train of thought of an entire day at work (between meetings) despite my efforts to condense it. In the interest of time, I will post the actual question at the end of said train here, and again at the end of my actual post: Based on what factors does one determine whether it is a work of genius, a flop, an acquired taste, or just the housecat prancing around on the Steinway in the living room? An extension of that question, and I suppose the real heart of my issue is, based upon what can I critique the works that I write using this method? What will be my goal in expression if it is not tonal? And now for how I got there. Also, I promise this post about 'atonal' or 'serial' or 'twelve-tone' music or whatever you want to call it is not to troll... but I can see how it may seem that way (or seem like a very amateur question, which not be out of character). In that regard, I recently started playing around with writing out some twelve-tone matrices. The issue I was having with developing or broadening or expanding motivic material lies partly with my imagination, but the root of that problem is probably more in my lack of music theory knowledge (i.e. my ability to use and manipulate the rules of harmony, voicing, etc.). I've studied entirely on my own and have a very good general understanding of (the most basic) harmony, the ideas and concept and treatment of sonata form, and the like, but to get in and start writing music, voicing chords, etc. proves very difficult for me, so it's slow going and very rudimentary. Back to Schoenberg and his twelve tones. In composing in this manner, one of the decisions left to a composer is removed, or at least greatly limited. Generally speaking (incredibly vaguely), a composer deals with a few things: pitch duration orchestration tempo dynamic harmonization intonation or attack Composing based on a twelve-tone row greatly limits if not eliminates the variables of pitch and harmony (obviously hexachords and vertical use of the series are not out of the question, but not with the freedom of choosing to use a minor/major/diminished/ninth chord, etc.), so the others play a much greater role in the style/interpretation feel of the piece. I am realizing that just from my writing out of the matrix. Just to clarify, I'm not talking about integral/total/multiple serialism like in Boulez's piano sonatas, for instance. Just the pitches and their sequences. So my question, ultimately, is this: in the tonal scheme, with tonics and dominants and tonal centers, it is very easy for even a total beginner to hear a piece like a Chopin nocturne or a Mozart sonata and 'understand' it emotionally to some degree or other (happy, sad, peaceful, etc.) because of its use of tonal expression. Even late Scriabin pieces, while highly chromatic, still make use of tonality to express emotion and feeling. People will rate the quality of the music, whether it is 'good' or 'bad', based on their ability to understand it, which as Milton Babbitt has pointed out, only happens in music and politics. My question then, is this (I did say that earlier) : since the average human innately understands the pentatonic scale and has some foundation for understanding "good" use of harmonies to some degree, he can identify with "good" music, or music that adheres to the rules of harmony (more advanced, even to the point of identifying and appreciating key changes, and modulations and their relationships to the tonic). Not being able to hear immediately the relationships between notes in a twelve tone series once we get to the inversion and retrograde, etc. how is one to distinguish "good" serial music from "bad"? I can listen to Schoenberg's op. 11 with some degree of appreciation, but it's a stretch. I have absolutely zero comprehension for Boulez's sonatas or anything by Babbitt, though. Based on what factors does one determine whether it is a work of genius, a flop, an acquired taste, a work with potential, or just the housecat prancing around on the Steinway in the living room? An extension of that question, and I suppose the real heart of my issue is, based upon what can I critique the works that I write using this method? What will be my goal in expression if it is not tonal? I suppose that is a subjective and individual question, but it still seems one worth asking. Thanks in advance for thoughts and ideas.
  18. I do it out of necessity, but it is horrible. And embarrassing, considering my father was/is a horn player. Anyway, I write mostly for natural horn as I prefer its sound to that of modern horns. I also score for the horn as though I am an 18th century composer. If the work is in A Major, than the Horns are in A. If the key is E-flat Major, the horns are in E-flat. If G, than they are in G, and so on and so forth. (As though they use crooks.) However, there are a plethora of issues that arise: What notes specifically can it play- what is the harmonic series? That is, what pitches and/or scale degrees are actually playable on the horn of Mozart's and Beethoven's day? Also, what is the range- how low can it go. I've seen bass clef notation in Beethoven (the first bars of the 7th symphony for example) and Wagner (to my knowledge he wrote for natural horns- most scores of his operas give horns more keys other than "F") This is driving me insane and has really sapped my desire to write lately as I'm not entirely sure I like what I have for horns in some of my works. I suppose I could scrap it and just boot the horns out of my works (which I'm not OK with, but I'm even less OK with not writing for a few days). I want to go into filling in their parts with clear knowledge of what they can and cannot do. Disclaimer: I REFUSE to write for valved horns unless the work itself requires it in my estimation. But I will always prefer the sound of the natural horn, particularly in works where the winds and strings carry the majority of the work. What can I say, I am not a huge fan of the brass section.
  19. Is it what drives the composition of every piece? Should it be what drives the composition of every piece? Is it like that with you? Is it like that with most composers? Or are there composers who do not mind if recognition were to never come and compose regardless?
  20. Electronic Music Composition Contest: Compose a piece in one of the following experimental genres: Acousmatic, Audio art, Electroacoustic, Glitch, Intelligent Dance Music, Microsound, Noise, Turntable art, or Video music. Maximum length: 10 minutes. Accepted file types: MP3 or MP4 only. $25 entry fee includes a one-year subscription to Musicworks magazine; $5 each additional entry (unlimited). First Prize: $500 cash, a composer profile in Musicworks magazine and on musicworks.ca AND your composition released on the Musicworks companion CD Second Prize: $200 cash AND a composer profile on musicworks.ca Third Prize: $100 cash AND a composer profile on musicworks.ca Also check out the “Sonic Geography” Writing Contest: Describe how sound shapes your experience in 500 words. Echoes in a Lisbon square, waterdrops from an Iceland glacier, birds in a Buenos Aires barrio, or the noise of your own neighbourhood—these are just some of the sound that have inspired contributors to our regular “Sonic Geography” column. The first-prize-winning essay will be published in our regular column space. Accepted file types: PDF only. 2014 Contest prize details, eligibility and assessment criteria, and entry forms can be found at: https://www.musicworks.ca/contest
  21. Hey guys :D I am new here and I have a question! What is the fastest way to write music? Do you write it with your hand and then copy it on the computer? Or do you instantly write it on a special programme on the computer? Or do you use tablets? I am kind of new here and I was wondering wether you could help me. (at the moment I use Finale, but it takes so long to enter note by note with your mouse) Any kind of help is appreciated! Thank you :D
  22. Hello, I'm a beginning music composition student at Washington State University, and there's a question that has been increasingly interesting me: What defines a "good" piece? I've been fascinated with theory, partly because I'm interested in trying to determine this answer, but so far it has generally eluded me. Why, for example, are Bartok's string quartets valued over Schubert's? Or why is Rite of Spring preferred over Firebird? I'm currently trying to write a piece for clarinet, but I'm kind of stuck because I can't decide when something I write is "good" or not. Sometimes there are notions that some pieces narrowly miss greatness because they don't develop their ideas enough, but what determines if an idea has been adequately developed? What are the correct ways to "develop" an idea? When are you developing an idea, and when are you actually introducing a new idea? I feel like these are some basic elements of composition theory, but I don't have a very firm grasp of them. I'd love to hear any of your thoughts on the matter. Thanks!
  23. General Information Bachelor of Music undergraduates from any Australian tertiary institution are invited to enter the inaugural Duo Entendre Composition Competition. Applicants will be required to submit a composition of up to 5 minutes duration for the instrumentation of horn and piano*. The work can be of any style providing that the score is legibly notated with computer software. Electronics and prepared piano can be utilised providing clear instructions are given. *Stuart & Sons 102 key Concert Grand - see Stuart and Sons website for specifications. Prize The winning composer will receive a $1000 prize. A concert program including the winning composition will be devised from the entered works. This free concert will take place on Sunday October 5, 2014 at 3pm in the Harold Lobb Concert Hall, Newcastle Conservatorium. The winner will be announced at this concert. Full details and entry form available from our website: http://www.duoentendre.com/competition.html
  24. Two days ago I participated in a Photo Marathon in which we had 12 hours, 12 themes, and had to take 12 photos. It was a pretty exciting challenge. So the idea occurred to me that we might organize a "Composition Marathon" on YC. To do it, we would have to adapt the idea. So I am starting this thread whereby we can collectively brainstorm to refine the idea and eventually hold the marathon. Here are my own suggestions for the adaptation of the photo marathon idea to a "composition marathon". These ideas are suggested as a starting point. Feel free to suggest your improvements or modifications. 1) 12 hours: Since this will be an online event with a global audience of composers, I suggest that we change this to 24 hours in order to take into account the time differences between countries (which could mean that if we made it only 12 hours, several countries' composer's might happen to be asleep during most of those hours). We can agree on the starting time and announce it several days before, doing a countdown to the day and hour (with no details of "themes" announced yet) while asking everyone to register. 2) 12 themes: These could be adapted to mean restrictions on the pieces to be composed. These "restrictions" could mean any of the following (feel free to add your suggestions): a) Limited number of bars to compose in. We could, for example, specify 10-bar miniatures as one of the "themes", as Christian Perrotta did in a successful challenge some time ago. We could go even shorter and ask for 5-bar miniatures, for another of the "themes". b) Related to the above, we can specify the form of the pieces. Possible forms I would suggest would be: free form, Soliloquy, or sententia (Latin for sentence, a form I have originated and composed several sets of pieces in). c) We can supply different musical themes to compose pieces on. d) We can specify the key signatures of the pieces to be composed. e) We can specify the time signatures of the pieces to be composed. f) We can specify the instruments for which to compose pieces. 3) 12 photos/pieces: As regards the number (12) of themes or restrictions, we could once again adapt this to composition in one of the following ways: a) 12 variations on one theme b) 12 sententiae c) 12 soliloquies d) Any of the above restrictions (see No. 2, a-f) x 12 (i. e. 12 x 5-bar minatures, or 12 5-bar miniatures for different instruments, 12 pieces in 12 different provided themes, 12 sententiae/soliloquies/etc. for 12 different instruments, 12 5-bar miniatures in 12 different key signatures, 12 variations on a theme for 12 different instruments, etc). Waiting to hear your input and ideas on how this composition marathon can best be organized and held. It could become a yearly event and would serve to generate increased interest in composition, excitement for young and beginning composers, and challenge and motivate all of us to improve as composers.
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