Indian Tala rhythmic cycle system

Hello, I am relatively new to this forum, I was wondering if anyone here has any experience studying Indian classical music or working with Indian Talas to generate rhythmic material.

I am composing several works now using this system, but I am looking for an exhaustive list with numerical notation and emotional/spiritual characteristics associated with each tala and sanksrit name.

Thanks so much, I greatly appreciate any suggestions.

KKSongs Talamala

Now, even though I've used this source, I don't know how accurate it really is.

But the way I understand it, Tals are like patterns of measures.

So like Tintal isn't really 4/4, it's more like 4 measures of 4/4.

A better example is Jhaptal, which could be read as 2 measures of 5/4. Really it's more like 2/4+3/4+2/4+3/4.

However, you have to be aware of the clap pattern, which makes it more like 2/4+5/4+3/4, though the 0 clap (a wave) is kind of like a anti-stress, if that makes any sense.

Anyway, poke around on the website, and you'll get the hang of their possibly totally wrong explanation.

Yes, that seems like a great resource, though what I am looking for is really just an exhaustive list of the Talas 120ish desi-talas with their characteristics. Here is what I've compiled so far from a dissertation on Messiaen's use of desi-talas:

Bhagnatala (116) 1 1 1 2 2 3 = 10

a broken, split up, divided tala

caccari (15) 1 1

I'm trying to find out more information on the same stuff. The best I've found so far is Messiaen's contemplations of covenant and incarnation mysucal symbold of faithin the two great piano cycles of the 1940s by Siglund Bruhn. In the back of that there are some of the deci-talas. Is desi-tala another spelling of the same thing?

What I don't understand is how to properly use these. No one ever explains that.

As i understand it, the tal is something like the form of a jazz tune. However, it also gives the stresses like a clave, and therefore the basic bols, or drum strokes, can be implied. The drummer then improvises around that stress pattern.

Doubt that's quite right, but it's close enough. There's a soapbox of mine around here about pancultural music...

Hey guys so I know this post is really old, but in case anyone is still looking for a list of the deci-talas, I found a source.  

Messiaen lists and describes all of them in volume 1 of his "Traite de Rythme, de Couleur, et d'Ornithologie."  The pdf of the English translation of the work can be found here: https://shareok.org/handle/11244/5762.  The list of talas is near the end of the text.

I hope this helps!