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I think your first melody was wonderful! 5/4 was a GREAT choice. It's different, yet it has a melodic, flowing feel to it. Bold! i like it.

Your second melody is also very good!

NEXT ASSIGNMENT...

Write accompaniment for SOLO PIANO (which you can think of as an orchestra reduction if you want...) for both melodies.

What will be hard: You must write a transition from your firs tot second melody so it flows as ONE PIECE. In other words, your two melodies become two contrasting sections in a piece, with the accompaniment holding them together. See what I mean?

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I think your first melody was wonderful! 5/4 was a GREAT choice. It's different, yet it has a melodic, flowing feel to it. Bold! i like it.

Your second melody is also very good!

NEXT ASSIGNMENT...

Write accompaniment for SOLO PIANO (which you can think of as an orchestra reduction if you want...) for both melodies.

What will be hard: You must write a transition from your firs tot second melody so it flows as ONE PIECE. In other words, your two melodies become two contrasting sections in a piece, with the accompaniment holding them together. See what I mean?

Yes. Glad you like it! Now let's see how the piano accompaniment goes...:P

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Ok! Your accompaniment was wonderful! Good job. NOW... time to move up the scale.

Find a poem you like, any kind... and write a DUET for any two voices and piano reduction accompaniment using that text. DO NOT write (the text) it yourself.

Parameters:

1. Must be OVER 2 minutes long.

2. Must consist of at least two contrasting sections.

3. The Voices must EACH have: Solos, Unison lines, Harmonic lines, and Polyphonic lines.

4. You must modulate at LEAST once.

Bonus:

1. Use a style you aren't familiar with... a.k.a. - Jazz, Atonalism... etc. (idk what you aren't comfortable with... just go for whatever you don't normally do).

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Ok! Your accompaniment was wonderful! Good job. NOW... time to move up the scale.

Find a poem you like, any kind... and write a DUET for any two voices and piano reduction accompaniment using that text. DO NOT write (the text) it yourself.

Parameters:

1. Must be OVER 2 minutes long.

2. Must consist of at least two contrasting sections.

3. The Voices must EACH have: Solos, Unison lines, Harmonic lines, and Polyphonic lines.

4. You must modulate at LEAST once.

Bonus:

1. Use a style you aren't familiar with... a.k.a. - Jazz, Atonalism... etc. (idk what you aren't comfortable with... just go for whatever you don't normally do).

12 tone music. Love it, but NEVER done it before! AAGHH! Can't WAIT to see what happens :P

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Find a poem you like, any kind... and write a DUET for any two voices and piano reduction accompaniment using that text. DO NOT write (the text) it yourself.

3. The Voices must EACH have: Solos, Unison lines, Harmonic lines, and Polyphonic lines.

These were the problems I found. lol. You didn't read all of my instructions. Where's the poem you set? And, also, the 2nd voice didn't have any solo time.

My second comment... WAS that 12 tone? Or just atonal?

My third comment... for the "sound-scape" I loved it. You are doing well. BUT, I want you to FOLLOW DIRECTIONS.

SOOOOO...

For the next assignment:

FIND A POEM TO SET.

Make it completely TONAL (in harmonic structure... meaning you could tell me if it's a I-V-IV-V-I progression of whatever).

Make use of smart counterpoint.

Put in the LYRICS.

I wanna see how you do on lyric placement. It should be for DUET voices.

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These were the problems I found. lol. You didn't read all of my instructions. Where's the poem you set? And, also, the 2nd voice didn't have any solo time.

My second comment... WAS that 12 tone? Or just atonal?

My third comment... for the "sound-scape" I loved it. You are doing well. BUT, I want you to FOLLOW DIRECTIONS.

SOOOOO...

For the next assignment:

FIND A POEM TO SET.

Make it completely TONAL (in harmonic structure... meaning you could tell me if it's a I-V-IV-V-I progression of whatever).

Make use of smart counterpoint.

Put in the LYRICS.

I wanna see how you do on lyric placement. It should be for DUET voices.

Lol I forgot to say 12 tone is a bit to hard for voice...

And THIS time... the poem will be set :P

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Heckel if you want to know more about orchestration, melody leading and counterpoint I can help you. I have a torrent file containing nearly 40 books (with more than hundred pages) in pdf. If you're interested I can send you...Me too I studying these to learn more, very useful things...but very...VERY...detailed...

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Heckel if you want to know more about orchestration, melody leading and counterpoint I can help you. I have a torrent file containing nearly 40 books (with more than hundred pages) in pdf. If you're interested I can send you...Me too I studying these to learn more, very useful things...

Actually, I know orchestration (for orchestra), that was just a first attempt at poem song writing :P Maybe I'll need them at some point :)

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Actually, I know orchestration (for orchestra), that was just a first attempt at poem song writing :P Maybe I'll need them at some point :)

You DO need training in counterpoint, which we will get to, though. You should read up on it. Fux's Counterpoint is a good start (but Schoenberg's is better, imho).

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"Actually, I know orchestration (for orchestra)"

HAHAHAHA :D:D:D It was a good joke dude,really HAHA

Mr. "I-won-the-Morton-Gould-Young-Composer-Award-and-the-Charlotte-V-Bergen-award-at-the-age-of-ten-but-know-nothing-about-composing thinks he know orchestration...Okkkk

Best comment ever HAHA Sorry dude but as I heard your internal fantasy you know nothing...You can never have enough knowledge about composing dont forget..Best composers learn through a life...

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"Actually, I know orchestration (for orchestra)"

HAHAHAHA :D:D:D It was a good joke dude,really HAHA

Mr. "I-won-the-Morton-Gould-Young-Composer-Award-and-the-Charlotte-V-Bergen-award-at-the-age-of-ten-but-know-nothing-about-composing thinks he know orchestration...Okkkk

Best comment ever HAHA Sorry dude but as I heard your internal fantasy you know nothing...You can never have enough knowledge about composing dont forget..Best composers learn through a life...

Take it elsewhere, Norby. Take it to the PMs. I will NOT have this topic go astray. If you want to talk ANY more on this subject or another to Heckel or to me, please PM or pager us.

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