920bpm Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 20 seconds? 30? 40? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokkemon Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Completely dependent on range, dynamics, and instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maestrowick Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 if it's a solo piece, no more than 20 seconds, and that's a lil much I would say. We can do it up to about 25 seconds but just because we CAN do doesn't mean write it! I normally say no more than fifteen for high-end stuff and ten seconds for easier pieces. if it's ensemble, we can stagger so you wouldn't notice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeckelphoneNYC Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Well, oboe players can sometimes hold it for more than a minute. If it's a solo piece, don't do more than 15 or so. In large orchestra, they can breathe without others noticing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SYS65 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Completely dependent on range, dynamics, and instrument. Exactly, -------------------- First, never forget all people must breath :D even musicians, may sound obvious but I'll tell you, sometimes you still have air in your lungs but you have to release it because you NEED to breath again... I will only answer about the winds I play, (which are only 3 :P ) Clarinet: ppp (as long as you can hold by taking a deep breath) pp 30 seconds p 25 seconds f 20 seconds ff 18 fff 15 Tenor Saxophone: ppp (there is no ppp on tenor unless...) ¬ ppp (breathy tone) 8 seconds (less lip pressure needs more air) pp (breathy tone) 10 seconds p (normal) 18 f ( " ) 15 ff ( " ) 10 fff ( " ) 8 Soprano Saxophone: ppp 25 pp 20 p 20 f 15 ff 15 fff 12 Of Course, don't use these numbers as overall rules, you have a an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
920bpm Posted October 16, 2010 Author Share Posted October 16, 2010 ah thanks everyone, I'm writing for chamber orchestra, it has 1 of each wind and brass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgri Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Take a deep breath. Now blow. There is your answer. But of course, you have to take inconsideration how much breath you an instrument needs to sound, and how much it takes for it to continue to sound. So a brass instrument is probably hard to keep sustatined than, say, a clarinet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_W. Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 20 seconds? 30? 40? There's no real general rule. All of these elements factor heavily into it. Is the instrument doubled? How loud is it? What range of the instrument is it in? What instrument is it? How does the note lay on the horn? (Some are hot notes that don't come out as easily) Are catch-breaths out of the question? Is the player professional, amatuer, or hs/ms? Your best bet is just to learn by trial and error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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