Jump to content

How Can I Report A Post That Mocks Me And My Works?


Recommended Posts

Other sites have the option of reporting offending content. Here I can't find such an option. So it makes me wonder whether such mockery is blessed by and/or even perpetrated by the administrators and established members of the site.

 

If so, then I demand that my account be swiftly terminated and all my posts removed from this site, whether compositions or threads!!!

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

I'mnot sure if you're new to the Internet or forums in general, but that's not how it works, I'm sorry. The "report" button does indeed exist, but it's meant for egregious violations such as the posting of sexually explicit content, hate speech, or graphic violence. It doesn't have anything to do with people mocking you.

If by mocking you mean criticizing you and your works, and you are unable to take criticism even in a mocking sense, then I would suggest that you do not pursue composition because a.) you will never improve and b.) you will be offended by every single one of your teachers.

It's possible maybe that in your culture you are brought up in such a way that you're told that you are special and that you're a musical genius, but you shouldn't expect to be coddled like that in the real world. If you're being mocked, it's for a reason. If you fix that in your music, boom, you won't be mocked anymore.

Good luck!

  • Like 4
Link to post
Share on other sites
I'mnot sure if you're new to the Internet or forums in general, but that's not how it works, I'm sorry. The "report" button does indeed exist, but it's meant for egregious violations such as the posting of sexually explicit content, hate speech, or graphic violence. It doesn't have anything to do with people mocking you. If by mocking you mean criticizing you and your works, and you are unable to take criticism even in a mocking sense, then I would suggest that you do not pursue composition because a.) you will never improve and b.) you will be offended by every single one of your teachers. It's possible maybe that in your culture you are brought up in such a way that you're told that you are special and that you're a musical genius, but you shouldn't expect to be coddled like that in the real world. If you're being mocked, it's for a reason. If you fix that in your music, boom, you won't be mocked anymore. Good luck!

 

I am talking about a parody of my music in the music section.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Ravel's Hookers
Other sites have the option of reporting offending content. Here I can't find such an option. So it makes me wonder whether such mockery is blessed by and/or even perpetrated by the administrators and established members of the site.

 

If so, then I demand that my account be swiftly terminated and all my posts removed from this site, whether compositions or threads!!!

How can you tell it's a mockery? Are you the only person who has every written an abundance of 'Soliloquies'? You seem paranoid.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

OK, enough of jokes.

Dear luderart, you keep uploading Solilloquies and Bagatelles for a year or so and these pieces don't show any progress. No expansion of form, no logical motivic, harmonic and formal development, sudden contrasts without transition, nonsense fermatas... I know it's very nasty to play a cruel prank I presume Iforgotmypassword did, but perhaps (s)he was trying to tell you albeit in very unfriendly way to make some progress (or maybe (s)he didn't).

Do you consider these pieces you upload a quality-like? What is your current education in music theory, harmony, counterpoint, composition, form studies? Have you analysed the finest works from Baroque, Classicism, Romanticism, 20th century styles and techniques?

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
What is your current education in music theory, harmony, counterpoint, composition, form studies? Have you analysed the finest works from Baroque, Classicism, Romanticism, 20th century styles and techniques?

I think you have already asked this question and I have already answered in a post. I have some education in theory and solfege but essentially no training in harmony, counterpoint & form (unless you count reading some sections from books and knowing some basics). Actually having given the priority to composition, unfortunately I haven't been able to study the finest works and their techniques. Maybe I'll do so now. But still, why should any composer be judged by what they know (i.e. harmony, counterpoint, etc) and whether they have studied the works of past masters? Do you see that as a requirement? Do you judge a novelist by what novels he has read and studied before writing his own? Shouldn't you judge each work on its merits?

Do you consider these pieces you upload a quality-like?

Do you consider this English? If you mean whether I consider the works I have uploaded to have quality, then yes, I believe they have quality. I believe they have their unique appeal, perhaps not as academic examples, but as the fruits of an "aspiring amateur composer" as I have described myself. Why would I upload them if I knew they were worthless. And why should you be the judge of their value or lack thereof? If they leave a lot to be desired, then I hope to get better in the future. If one should upload only masterpieces, then that should be made clear so that everyone behaves according to that rule. But even then, I suppose to every composer what they compose would sound like a masterpiece (something which is a self-bias). Otherwise, why would one even become a composer (if one weren't to dare to compose unless one were to produce assured masterpieces). The greatest composers have already existed before one, and most probably one will never be able to approach them, let alone equal or surpass them. I think, rather, that composition is done not in order to please others but to satisfy an inner need. And so, even if one's compositions may not be masterpieces according to objective judgement, they express the composer's subjective self and are therefore an artistic product to the extent that they express his/her unique self and style, to the extent that they are original.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
But still, why should any composer be judged by what they know (i.e. harmony, counterpoint, etc) and whether they have studied the works of past masters? Do you see that as a requirement? Do you judge a novelist by what novels he has read and studied before writing his own? Shouldn't you judge each work on its merits?

 

I might not judge a novelist by what he has read - but I would expect a novelist to know the basic rules of grammar and ortography at the very least, and I as a plain reader would promptly notice if he does. A writer who doesn't know this is very unlikely to produce anything meaningful, let alone a masterpiece at the level of Shakespeare. And the more familiarized is this writer with Tolstoi, Victor Hugo, Shakespeare, Cervantes, Austen, Hemingway et al, the more it will show in his own works.

 

To expect the opposite is akin to expect readers to value a third-grader's paragraph as highly as a Shakespeare play.

 

 

If one should upload only masterpieces, then that should be made clear so that everyone behaves according to that rule. (...) And so, even if one's compositions may not be masterpieces according to objective judgement, they express the composer's subjective self and are therefore an artistic product to the extent that they express his/her unique self and style, to the extent that they are original.

 

Nope, we're not expecting everyone to upload masterpieces (in which case this site would be all but empty, simply because not everyone is able to produce a single masterpiece in a lifetime). Quite the opposite: we're expecting to upload non-masterpieces and showing them with their flaws, so that these can be pointed out by more experienced and knowledgeable people, thus helping us to get better. To expect our works to be admired exclusively as unique expressions of originality is an hyper-subjective attitude that excludes constructive criticism - thus hampering our own chances of improvement.

Link to post
Share on other sites
To expect our works to be admired exclusively as unique expressions of originality is an hyper-subjective attitude that excludes constructive criticism - thus hampering our own chances of improvement.

 

I never claimed to expect my pieces to be admired EXCLUSIVELY as expressions of originality. But Sojar here is going to the other extreme and finding no value in my compositions simply because they may not follow to the letter the laws of harmony, counterpoint, and form. All I said was that the art in a piece was to be found in its composer's self-expression and originality, not in whether it followed or obeyed to the letter the rules that are academically taught and which a computer can also obey and even compose music. But would you call that art?

Link to post
Share on other sites
All I said was that the art in a piece was to be found in its composer's self-expression and originality, not in whether it followed or obeyed to the letter the rules that are academically taught...

 

In this case, the half-page essay of the third-grader could be as much of a valid expression of art as Macbeth. There's no possible critique on either on these grounds ;) .

Link to post
Share on other sites

Oh dear goodness. lolol.

 

Here at YC, we think talking it out is better than the mod button. *disclaimer: I'm in the process of issuing like... 7 warnings... whoops...* 

 

And, in this case, mocking should be resolved by moderation. Not the magic button moderation. but, the talking it out kind. Austenite and Sojar have it taken care of in this regard. So, no, the moderators will not "change" the universe for you. Only if it breaks the existing rules. 

 

Also, does this mean you'd like your account terminated and all posts deleted? I'll be happy to take care of that for you if you PM me. 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi there!

 

I heard a couple of your pieces, i think they had something, to tell you the truth i have heard much more lesser music by composers on this forum, who think much more highly of themself then you seem to do.

As you said yourself, you are beginner, and your works give you away, which is fine, everybody have been fresh.

As Sojar pointed out It would be wise to study form, counterpoint and harmony. I dont know what style you want to write, but it might be good for you to start writing in some sort of traditional style, just to get melodic phrases, structure, harmony and form in practice. composition is learning by doing, experience comes with pieces. You cant read to become experienced, you have try and fail :) that is the way we learn best.

 

There will always be disrespectful people on a internet forum, try to look over those, and try to learn form those who review your music seriously.

Good luck to you, and merry Christmas

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Also, does this mean you'd like your account terminated and all posts deleted? I'll be happy to take care of that for you if you PM me. 

Thanks. I'm happy to know that that option is available. But for now, I'm putting a hold on that decision. The advice I received from Stephen T. Buck and Austenite helped me not take it personally. In fact, I even laughed at the mocking post's humour (i.e. Form: Requiem). That was possible when I didn't take the mocking personally. Also, someone joked that I could write a novel called "To Kill a Mocking Composer" which was very clever.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
Luderart, if you were my student, I would be more than annoying teacher to you. ;)

That's precisely why I am not very fond of taking lessons and becoming a clone of every other modern composer and having all my originality gone or molded into conformity with the current uniform modern style. I might be losing out on something. But I prefer to tread my own solitary path. My ambitions might not be very big. But then, I don't measure them with the same yardstick that you use!

Link to post
Share on other sites
Hi there!

 

I heard a couple of your pieces, i think they had something, to tell you the truth i have heard much more lesser music by composers on this forum, who think much more highly of themself then you seem to do.

As you said yourself, you are beginner, and your works give you away, which is fine, everybody have been fresh.

As Sojar pointed out It would be wise to study form, counterpoint and harmony. I dont know what style you want to write, but it might be good for you to start writing in some sort of traditional style, just to get melodic phrases, structure, harmony and form in practice. composition is learning by doing, experience comes with pieces. You cant read to become experienced, you have try and fail :) that is the way we learn best.

 

There will always be disrespectful people on a internet forum, try to look over those, and try to learn form those who review your music seriously.

Good luck to you, and merry Christmas

Thanks a lot SimenN for your positive feedback about my music. The fact is that privately I do think highly of my music, as I think every composer would. But I don't like to be in competition with other composers or to sink to the level of making my music and myself be reduced into a reaction to their charges and disqualifications of it. I am humble and non-competitive in my music just as I am in life. But humility and non-competitiveness are just a way of knowing my individual place (in the landscapes of life and composition) and not confusing it with what others think my place should be. Maybe such humility and non-competitiveness, unfortunately, is read by some people as a weakness to be exploited and an invitation to ridicule/mock. But you are right, I need to take the positive feedback and reviews of which there are many.

 

Merry Christmas also to you and to all those who celebrate it in YC! Let this Christmas bring joy and a spirit of brotherhood to every person and especially to the YC members here :)

Link to post
Share on other sites
I would say that a few of my traumatic childhood experiences were related to criticism of my music, and I'll never forget those 'teachers' who made me cry. It's a rite of passage, I suppose.

I expect it would be a "rite of passage" as you say only if you give up and choose to accept it as that. But as a child, unfortunately, one might not always have the choice to reject it and choose a different way. But as adults, we have that option.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
×
×
  • Create New...