maestrowick Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 An old piece I had on this forum...Three designs ago.... MP3 Play / pause JavaScript is required. 0:00 0:00 volume > next menu 01 Visions of a Renaissance (m2) > next PDF Visions of a Renaissance Full orchestra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamieboo Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 This gorgeous! I will have another listen when I have a bit more time to give it the attention it deserves - this will reward repeat listens! Bravo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarcheon Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Really beautiful work, though that's some difficult harp writing you've got in there. A lot of clever changes and developments. It's hard not to love this piece! Some parts reminded me of Gershwin's "American in Paris" passages. You use a lot of safe range writing, which is fine in the fast stuff, but pushing it a little bit could give that gorgeous slow point a bit more edge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Johnson Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) I am in awe as I listen to this. Incredible writing here. Good stuff man. Edited January 4, 2017 by LostSamurai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maestrowick Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 thank you kind sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panta rei Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 This is outstanding!, I have only one "negative" comment: I want more of it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maestrowick Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Ha!!! thanks boss! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Quince Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Maestro, Beautiful and very engaging piece! I love the clarity of the orchestral textures throughout. A suggestion from a fellow low brass player: You might consider doing an optional Euphonium part that has the Tuba solo at m. 190 notated up an octave instead of the optional 8va. That would allow one of the trombone players doubling on Euphonium to read the solo at pitch while still leaving the tubist a nice meaty line at m. 231 if the conductor chose to go for the octave up. Some of the harmonic support work in the tuba part really calls for the breadth of a CC tuba to lay the foundation of the chords, meaning the optional 8va would be in the extreme upper reaches of the instrument. It would be more manageable on an F, but still virtuosic. That said, the world needs more lines like that for low brass in general, so thanks! Also, a couple of thoughts on tuba octaves: In m. 288-294, you might consider writing the tuba down an octave (except for the C at the end of m. 289). That would put the overtones from the tuba in a great place to support the trombones through those chords, instead of being up against the moving lines in the upper brass and winds. For example, in m. 288, the overtones Bb-D-F from a tuba Bb below the staff would be right where you voiced the trombone chord. Conversely, in m. 300, you might consider taking the tuba Gb up an ocatve so the instrument contributes a lighter sound to the piano chord there. That'll also give the ff low G following more gravitas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maestrowick Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 You know, I WANTED to write it for my favorite EUPHONIUM; however, I know the piece wouldn't get played if I did that. Now, I just take it down which I should have notated here. And, you are absolutely correct about that down the octave at 288! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Quince Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 59 minutes ago, maestrowick said: You know, I WANTED to write it for my favorite EUPHONIUM; however, I know the piece wouldn't get played if I did that. Now, I just take it down which I should have notated here. And, you are absolutely correct about that down the octave at 288! I'm definitely an advocate for more Euphonium lit for orchestra, so I may be biased there. My instincts tell me including a Euphonium part as an optional alternate (while leaving the solo in the Tuba) wouldn't impact the potential reach of the piece all that much. In fact, it could increase the appeal to community orchestras who may not have a hot shot tubist available but could certainly poach a eupher out of the local concert band. About the tuba octaves, the topic has really only occurred to me recently. The conductor for the wind ensemble at the local community college hired a ringer tuba player for our last concert. Tremendous sound, rich in overtones, his tone was an amazing foundation for the band. I was playing Euphonium and didn't have to worry about tuning at all when he was playing. I realized that it was his overtones that I was locking on to. It's really changed the way I look at tuba for harmonic foundation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maestrowick Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 On 1/31/2017 at 9:08 PM, Adrian Quince said: I'm definitely an advocate for more Euphonium lit for orchestra, so I may be biased there. My instincts tell me including a Euphonium part as an optional alternate (while leaving the solo in the Tuba) wouldn't impact the potential reach of the piece all that much. In fact, it could increase the appeal to community orchestras who may not have a hot shot tubist available but could certainly poach a eupher out of the local concert band. About the tuba octaves, the topic has really only occurred to me recently. The conductor for the wind ensemble at the local community college hired a ringer tuba player for our last concert. Tremendous sound, rich in overtones, his tone was an amazing foundation for the band. I was playing Euphonium and didn't have to worry about tuning at all when he was playing. I realized that it was his overtones that I was locking on to. It's really changed the way I look at tuba for harmonic foundation. I'm actually doing this @Adrian Quince. This was SOUND advice and it makes perfect sense!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken320 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 I'm so glad you brought this piece back into the forum because I didn't even know it existed. You masterfully covered a dazzling world of invention here in about six minutes. Bravo! Can you tell me something of this performance? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayneBruce Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 It sounds great! my only suggestion is that it seems a little underwritten for percussion (I’m probably biased as a percussionist) Maybe adding bass drum to the percussion instrumentation would help this. It seems like a lot of the impact moments would benefit from this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maestrowick Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 7 hours ago, LayneBruce said: Maybe adding bass drum to the percussion instrumentation would help this. It seems like a lot of the impact moments would benefit from this. Any particular spots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayneBruce Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 First time I noticed it was measure 33, I think bass drum could help drive the momentum forward, and then in measure 71 some loud bass drum hits will make the arrival more dramatic. it sounds great as is, it’s just rare to see bass drum excluded from percussion instrumentation, especially when there is a snare drum. Might help keep everything together tempo wise as well (not that this was really an issue) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Szulc Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 scraggy, that's a fantastic work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maestrowick Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 On 2/27/2020 at 4:43 PM, Jean Szulc said: scraggy, that's a fantastic work. thank you for the kind words!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillem82 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 wow, that's amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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