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ilv    33

I thought it would be really cool to write a collaborative string quartet (2 violins, viola and cello). A few rules to follow:
1. I want to warn you that the score I upload (.xml format) is very likely going to be visually unappealing and may contain visual notation mistakes. I use a special notation program due to a disability (please do not ask me what this disability is, as it's information that is too personal to mention on the internet). Therefore, I cannot correct these mistakes myself. If anyone is willing to help me correct these mistakes, that would be awesome.
2. Any forum member may contribute as much as they want in any style, as long as we ensure smooth transitions between contributions. You can contribute as many times as you like.
3. I will decide when the composition is finished, but you are welcome to end it if you like.

Collaborative String Quartet.xml

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Noah Brode    28

I cannot view the file at the moment, but I can say that I'm interested in this idea. Would each person be writing a movement, or a section of a movement, or some other arrangement?

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ilv    33

This is a single movement piece, so everyone contributes part of a movement. Note that you can contribute as many times as you like.

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Hey Ilv,

Great idea. How do you have this in mind? Do we all compose a part for string quartet and submit it here and then adjust the transition so that they flow over in the next part?

Of course, I want to help you with the notation issues! When somebody is not capable of doing a certain task, one needs to help this person.

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ilv    33

Yes, each contributor contributes one or more sections to a one-movement string quartet. We can fix notation issues at the end, so we don't have to repeatedly fix them, since I'm likely going to contribute multiple times.

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Here is my part. I hope you like it!

String Quartet Part Maarten Bauer.mid

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ilv    33

Hi Maarten, The thing you wrote is really nice, except it doesn't seem to be for the instrumentation I specified (2 violins, viola and cello). Unlike the Multi-Genre Collab we just did, this is a 1-movement, single-instrumentation, and collaborative composition. I know you're not a string player, so you don't have to participate. Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it.

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22 minutes ago, ilv said:

Hi Maarten, The thing you wrote is really nice, except it doesn't seem to be for the instrumentation I specified (2 violins, viola and cello). Unlike the Multi-Genre Collab we just did, this is a 1-movement, single-instrumentation, and collaborative composition. I know you're not a string player, so you don't have to participate. Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it.

 

I do not understand you. I have written the music for 2 violins, 1 viola and 1 violoncello. I created the part in a way that it could flow into another part.

What do you mean?

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ilv    33

Sorry, Maarten, I think something was up with the MIDI sounds. I listened to the MP3 version and the instrumentation sounds correct. I really appreciate your contribution. Thank you.
At Mms. 11 and 14, I had to split the double stop in the first violin between the first violin and cello because the notes in that double stop are only possible on the violin's lowest G string, making it impossible for a violinist to play those two notes simultaneously. As a rule, double stops for violin cannot include multiple notes within the range G-C-sharp/D-flat (C-F-sharp/G-flat for viola and cello) because these notes are only possible on the lowest string and cannot be played simultaneously.
At Mms. 45 and 46, I don't see the real point in having violin 2 and viola playing the exact same double stops, so I spit the double stops between the two instruments. Is there a reason why you did this?
The opening I gave is too short and I better correct that.
Also, could you tell me where you put pizzicato indications and in which parts? Where are the arco indications? They went missing in my score, and I'd like to add them to my score. Thanks.

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1 hour ago, ilv said:

Sorry, Maarten, I think something was up with the MIDI sounds. I listened to the MP3 version and the instrumentation sounds correct. I really appreciate your contribution. Thank you.
At Mms. 11 and 14, I had to split the double stop in the first violin between the first violin and cello because the notes in that double stop are only possible on the violin's lowest G string, making it impossible for a violinist to play those two notes simultaneously. As a rule, double stops for violin cannot include multiple notes within the range G-C-sharp/D-flat (C-F-sharp/G-flat for viola and cello) because these notes are only possible on the lowest string and cannot be played simultaneously.
At Mms. 45 and 46, I don't see the real point in having violin 2 and viola playing the exact same double stops, so I spit the double stops between the two instruments. Is there a reason why you did this?
The opening I gave is too short and I better correct that.
Also, could you tell me where you put pizzicato indications and in which parts? Where are the arco indications? They went missing in my score, and I'd like to add them to my score. Thanks.

 

Hello Ilv,

Thank you very much for the explanation of double stops. I have just begun studying violin orchestration, but I find the whole principle of strings and positions very hard. It is very different from wind instrument writing. I am thinking about learning the violin, viola or cello to understand the string family, because this is really important genre classical composition.

The reason why I have doubled the second violin and viola is a matter of power. I do not want to lose this passage due to the passage of the violin and first violin, which are more prominent. Therefore I doubled the passage in the second violin and viola to give the given passage more resistence against the other two lines. Maybe, I am too concerned in this case.

I have added a PDF file in my previous post. This shows the complete score with indications and repetition bars.

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ilv    33

Thanks for telling me about the doubling in measures 45-46. I have to agree that writing for strings and winds requires two different approaches. I'm the exact opposite of you, by the way. I am a keyboardist and string player, but I do not play a wind instrument. Therefore, I don't understand passagework difficulties wind players talk about due to fingering schemes, but I do understand transposition, polyphonic limitations and the ranges of wind instruments.

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1 hour ago, ilv said:

Sorry for being so incredibly late, but here is the last revision of my collaborative string quartet. I extended the opening motif so it would fit better with @Maarten Bauer's great contribution.

 

Collaborative String Quartet.xml

 

 

Is this the finished piece? If so, I will take care of the lay-out.

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