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Interesting.

Shame is "vergüenza" in Spanish, after the latin word "verecundia".

"vereri" is a verb which means: to have respectful fear about something.

"cundus" means "trend to".

That is: trend to have respectful fear

 

In music... OMG, I don¡t know. In pop music it is easy to find songs with "shame" in the title. But in academic music... ¿?

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5 hours ago, Luis Hernández said:

Interesting.

Shame is "vergüenza" in Spanish, after the latin word "verecundia".

"vereri" is a verb which means: to have respectful fear about something.

"cundus" means "trend to".

That is: trend to have respectful fear

 

In music... OMG, I don¡t know. In pop music it is easy to find songs with "shame" in the title. But in academic music... ¿?

 

Interesting etymology! 

I think shame is a fear to not be accepted for things you do and things you are. This fear exists due to cultural norms. 

I am also struggling with realizing shame in music. Perhaps something like a melody first stated very present and forte, but then shame appears and the melody gets uneasy, piano and shy. 

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On 8/19/2018 at 2:25 PM, Glenn Simonelli said:

I think Chopin's Prelude in e minor (Op.28 No.4) evokes feelings of shame.

But maybe that's because I'm such a sloppy piano player.

I can imagine that you connect shame with Chopin's prelude! 

Actually, it is not such a bad interpretation at all! 

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I know this is an 4 year old topic by I couldn't resist putting my 2¢ into the discussion.  I've heard it said in psychology, when comparing shame to guilt, that guilt is the sense that one has made a mistake, while shame is the sense that one IS a mistake and that there is something irredeemable about one's self.  I think cringing about the past often brings up feelings of shame which could be symbolized in music by starkly set high dissonant chords.

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