Luis Hernández Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) Inspired in Evans and his harmonies (incomplete or rootless chords, chords by fourths, clusters...). Edited September 1, 2020 by Luis Hernández MP3 Play / pause JavaScript is required. 0:00 0:00 volume > next menu Pequeña balada > next PDF Pequeña balada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterthePapercomPoser Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I kind of tend to disagree with some of the chord names you chose to write in the score. I know Evans frequently uses these kinds of voicings but usually he's relying on the bass player to play the root - otherwise without that root an altogether different sonority is heard by the listener - for example the very first chord you have to me sounds like an Ab major7 #11. Also - the end of measure 5 you have C#, F#, B, and D which you label as a B minor chord but it's heard for such a short time that I just hear it as a passing stack of 4ths starting on C# with a b9. In measure 8 left hand, I just hear that as a set of chromatically descending thirds. But all of the above is just gripes about how you name the chords not the chords themselves. I enjoyed the jazzy/improvised/experimental feel you managed to capture here which is difficult to do with having to actually write out all the notes exactly etc. The chords are actually well chosen in this. And the little fragments of melody make sense. And the dynamics are realistic for the kind of phrasing you're going for. Nice job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis Hernández Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 Well the name of the chords here are a bit conceptual. If they are names like rey are is to follow a logic in harmony. On the other hand what matters is how it sounds, or better solution is no to write the names of those chords. Sometimes I think we say a chord sounds like this or that because we see some notes written, but we have to listen to the whole progression to out them in context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis Hernández Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) So how would you call the first chord here? Edited September 1, 2020 by Luis Hernández 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarcheon Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I mean, in a literal sense, if you wrote out the music specifically the way you want it, chord symbols are functionally pretty useless. While I do agree that functions need context to work properly, chords in and of themselves don't necessarily need that condition. Anyway, your music is nice. The motive of expanding a semitone works really well with your internal mini-progressions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis Hernández Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) Thank you all for listening. Your thoughts are always useful. Edited September 2, 2020 by Luis Hernández Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis Hernández Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 12 hours ago, PaperComposer said: Also - the end of measure 5 you have C#, F#, B, and D which you label as a B minor chord but it's heard for such a short time that I just hear it as a passing stack of 4ths starting on C# with a b9 Yes it't a passing chord by semitones. C# is a tension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterthePapercomPoser Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 On repeated listenings I do hear that first chord as an F minor chord probably because of meas. 9 and 34 where you make that harmony more clear. In the beginning I now hear the tonic to be F minor but I guess because of the preponderance of those structurally strong D7 (b9) chords by the end I hear the tonic as G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis Hernández Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 4 hours ago, PaperComposer said: On repeated listenings I do hear that first chord as an F minor chord probably because of meas. 9 and 34 where you make that harmony more clear. In the beginning I now hear the tonic to be F minor but I guess because of the preponderance of those structurally strong D7 (b9) chords by the end I hear the tonic as G. Yes in the cadences is where C7 - Fm is seen. Although at the very end, the Fm is altered by G in the bass. Why? I don't know. I like it. The times D7 or D7b9 appears is as part of chromatic fall Eb.... D7b9... Cm (in this case is also a tritonal substitute of G7). In general, I don't take much care about functions except in some points that establish the tonality (cadences). What happens inside or between, can be many things. That's how Ilike harmony. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterthePapercomPoser Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) She also provides a link to a pdf score of all these voicings in the info of this video on youtube. Edited December 2, 2020 by PaperComposer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis Hernández Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 @PaperComposer Thanks. Very interesting. This set of voicings has been extracted from Evan's works by the youtuber. There is a combination of many things. I took some features from Evans, just like quartal chords (which in this video there are many many) and rootless/cluster chords in which some times the third is lacking. i don't consider myself to have the skills to be a good jazz composer, I think that would take a life..., but I can use all the tools from jazz I learn... That's how I like to see composition: eclectic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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