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I think it's better to have a Eb7 in b.7 rather than a Bbm. The p5 btw b.10 and 11 is too obvious in S and A part.

Fm7 is dissonant itself but if the dissonance is prepared then it will be ok.

I find the bar before PAC fine.

For b.5 it's ok except too static, I will probably change the alto part to minim and crotchet, C to Db to add motion and also prepare the D natural next bar.

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Is that better? I changed my alto under the Fm and adjusted my parts so there's no parallel 4/5ths

Would the Eb7 be a stronger HAC there?

Any ideas for some movement under the Bbm-Eb7?

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13 hours ago, GospelPiano12 said:

Is that better? I changed my alto under the Fm and adjusted my parts so there's no parallel 4/5ths

Would the Eb7 be a stronger HAC there?

Any ideas for some movement under the Bbm-Eb7?

 

I like the Bbm-Eb7 a little better since it's a softer chord change to the V7

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15 hours ago, GospelPiano12 said:

Would the Eb7 be a stronger HAC there?

Actuay it will weaken the HC there with the dissonance Db. Using V7 will be stronger in a PAC or IAC with the added tedency if the seventh to resolve to sixth, but to be a sustained chord itself it will add the tension which makes the cadence weaker.

15 hours ago, GospelPiano12 said:

Any ideas for some movement under the Bbm-Eb7?

Probably only the alto can slightly move within C and Db there.

1 hour ago, GospelPiano12 said:

like the Bbm-Eb7 a little better since it's a softer chord change to the V7

I suggest the Bbm to be Eb7 since it's already the moment of the HC, but I feel like you have delayed the cadential chord.

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7 hours ago, Henry Ng Tsz Kiu said:

Actuay it will weaken the HC there with the dissonance Db. Using V7 will be stronger in a PAC or IAC with the added tedency if the seventh to resolve to sixth, but to be a sustained chord itself it will add the tension which makes the cadence weaker.

Probably only the alto can slightly move within C and Db there.

I suggest the Bbm to be Eb7 since it's already the moment of the HC, but I feel like you have delayed the cadential chord.

 

WOuld you mind explaining these a little more?

Could you sketch out some example movements please?

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I like the IV-ii7-I, I think I might add it to the beginning as well

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12 hours ago, GospelPiano12 said:

WOuld you mind explaining these a little more?

A V7 chord itself is an unstable chord with a dissonance of 7th. To use that before the tonic will increase the tendency to resolve to the tonic chord with that dissonance, thus making the PAC or IAC stronger in a V7-I progression more than V-I progression. However as a terminal chord itself V7 is weaker than a V, thus in a HC, e.g. ii6-V7 is weaker than ii6-V.

19 minutes ago, GospelPiano12 said:

I like the IV-ii7-I, I think I might add it to the beginning as well

The chord progression is good, except of the double third of a major chord which may be considered too bright in the traditional harmony but I think it's fine here.

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Just now, Henry Ng Tsz Kiu said:

A V7 chord itself is an unstable chord with a dissonance of 7th. To use that before the tonic will increase the tendency to resolve to the tonic chord with that dissonance, thus making the PAC or IAC stronger in a V7-I progression more than V-I progression. However as a terminal chord itself V7 is weaker than a V, thus in a HC, e.g. ii6-V7 is weaker than ii6-V.

The chord progression is good, except of the double third of a major chord which may be considered too bright in the traditional harmony but I think it's fine here.

 

Ahhhh yes, tendency tones and such. Do you think I should change it to an ii-ii6/5-V instead of going to the V7th?

I was going to have the bass move as well there. So it's a root position IV to a root position ii7 to a root position I

 

I've learned so much from this discussion. Thanks for teaching a novice like me lol

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5 minutes ago, GospelPiano12 said:

Ahhhh yes, tendency tones and such. Do you think I should change it to an ii-ii6/5-V instead of going to the V7th?

I was going to have the bass move as well there. So it's a root position IV to a root position ii7 to a root position I

What is the location of the chords?😅

6 minutes ago, GospelPiano12 said:

I've learned so much from this discussion. Thanks for teaching a novice like me lol

LOL you are definitely not a novice!

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  • 3 weeks later...

New project, I made this lead sheet, and I think I was on the right track then just got way off and not sure how to fix it all

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Hey @GospelPiano12,

Does the song starts from 2:48? The first line should be "Let him have HIS way". The rhythm should be semiquaver-quaver-quaver-dotted quaver there. The "stop the" starts at the third beat and "worry" on the first beat of the next bar. You can count the beats in a semiquaver way to have a more detailed version of it!

Henry

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Are the proposed changes going in the right direction?

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Going to put this one into SATB, but I'd like to use different harmonies for the verses and chorus. Any ideas?

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