relinquished Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Hello everyone, I'm having a bit of a problem with key signatures and I was wondering if someone could help. If you're in D Minor: the key sig. for C instruments is one flat (just Bb) what are the key signatures for Bb, Eb, and F instruments supposed to be? I'm pretty sure it's all naturals for F instruments, just I'm not sure about Bb and Eb, would the signatures be Bb, Eb, Ab and Bb, Eb, Ab, Db respectively? I'm just wondering because I wrote a piece where the key signatures are: C instruments: Bb Bb instruments: Bb, Eb, Ab Eb instruments: Bb, Eb, Ab, Db F instruments: all natural The piece sounds great, it's just I was told that that's incorrect... Thanks for your help :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinjessome Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 It'd be easier if you identified each key signature with its apropriate 'key' ...i.e. instead of giving us which notes are flat/sharp, just tell us what key it is. NOW, what you've done is just transposed the wrong way. Concert -> Bb = up major 2nd Concert -> Eb = up major 6th Concert -> F = up perfect 5th SO, to clarify what we've got here: Dmin ... FMaj (One flat: Bb) C instruments: Key of F (1 flat) Bb instruments: Key of G (1 sharp) Eb instruments: Key of D (2 sharps) F instruments: Key of C (no flats/sharps) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Bb clarinet etc. would be playing with the key signature of g major. (one sharp) Horn in f etc would play in the key signature of c major. no sharps or flats. Eb instruments would play in the key signature of d major. Two sharps. See how it goes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relinquished Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 I thought I may have done something weird along those lines, thanks a lot for the help! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 No problem. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassworks Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 If you want finale to do it for you, click the staff attributes button, then double click the button thing next to the staff you want to make a new transposition for. Click the box for transposition, then click the select button. In the Key signature drop down box, it lists any transposition you could need... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinjessome Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 If you want finale to do it for you, click the staff attributes button... Now, why would you assume he's using Finale? Or even a computer at all?! I'd expect the problem came from hand copying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassworks Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 well, he said "The piece sounds great" therefore, it's likely he was using a computer for playback. And since he's online, it's likely he has a computer. Maybe he's just unfamiliar with his software and my answer would actually help him out... Thanks for being a dick when I offer him a shortcut... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinjessome Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Thanks for being a dick when I offer him a shortcut... :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Kranz Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 actually, he could be using sibelius (off topic) (on topic) while i dont write many pieces that use winds (if at all, i dont remember the last piece i wrote for winds) i use all strings, which is all very straight forward, but I've been thinking about writing my 1st sypmony, in which case this has been very helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_the_sane Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 (on topic) while i dont write many pieces that use winds (if at all, i dont remember the last piece i wrote for winds) i use all strings, which is all very straight forward, but I've been thinking about writing my 1st sypmony, in which case this has been very helpful Not particularly on topic..... And neither's this post:P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassworks Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 I agree... The smart thing to do is always use a reduction, even if you have ideas about future orchrestration... It's not like it's un-orchestrateable in the future... Seriously though, I am 3000% against sibelius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relinquished Posted March 24, 2007 Author Share Posted March 24, 2007 Actually I'm using Noteworthy Composer (demo version) because I can't afford Finale (which the demo version is only an um.. 30 day trial I think?). Although I would love to get a hold of it someday if I ever get enough free cash :D :). One last question, Bass Clarinets are in Bb right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBel Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Well it sounds like you're on the right track now. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana69 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Well it sounds like you're on the right track now. Good luck! Yeah, here's hoping that in the four and a half years since you first made this thread, you've managed to figure out basic transposition instruments. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeckelphoneNYC Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 LOL. Always check the dates before you start giving advice :P This is from 2007. The current year is 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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