blueygh2 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I found this quite interesting and decided to write something myself. I have to say that I couldn't discern what qualifies a piece as a rhapsody, so I just wrote something... I don't even know if it fits, but I had fun writing it. It's not my usual style. Hope you can enjoy it somehow... :unsure: It's called "Chorea ardens", or in english "Burning dance". RhapsodyChoreaArdens.mid RhapsodyChoreaArdens.nwc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anders Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 No, I'm trying my best to find any way at all to hear this piece as more than just dissonance and pppp-ffff-pppp-ffff. Ow. The piece isn't really up to standards with what I usually write, but you're way off here - I try to take great care in structuring and creating an organic whole. That said, it is dynamic and ugly - I like it that way. I didn't even look at the score. Yes, no worries. I removed that comment after I realized how silly it was :unsure: Well, my counter-counterargument is that you couldn't think of a counterargument because you knew that most rhapsodies do make tonal sense and if you understood that, you'd understand how yours doesn't. No, I was too amazed by your comment. My work makes ''tonal sense'' to me. Again, it would help if your provided me with a definition rather than your own subjective opinion of what makes ''tonal sense''. Not that i'd agree with that definition, however. EDIT: Yes, wheter a piece makes tonal sense or not IS a matter of opinion. I'm baffled that you don't realize this! I'd apreciate it if some of the more experienced composers chime in here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CreationArtist Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Whether a piece makes tonal sense is a matter of opinion yes, but what I meant to say was "whether a piece is tonal or not is a not a matter of opinion." That said, it is dynamic and ugly - I like it that way. Okay, but that's not what we're looking for here (unless again you can justify this ugliness in terms of tonality (harmony) and structure. I'm not aware that your piece contains much harmony at all and as far as structure goes, well, I don't think that goes too far either. (That doesn't mean it's structureless, of course, but . . . ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anders Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 What does that have to do with anything? My piece is almost completely tonal. There are very few, if any, atonal elements. Okay, but that's not what we're looking for here (unless again you can justify this ugliness in terms of tonality (harmony) and structure. I'm not aware that your piece contains much harmony at all and as far as structure goes, well, I don't think that goes too far either. (That doesn't mean it's structureless, of course, but . . . ) You don't understand the definition of harmony at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CreationArtist Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 You don't understand the definition of harmony at all. Mirror attack! Eb -> F# -> C min -> F# min -> Bb min -> Ab min--makes a piece tonal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anders Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 So what? Harmony is pitch simultaneity (which there is plenty of in my piece), not (necessarily) harmonic progression(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anders Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 *rips hair out in a Beethovenian fashion* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CreationArtist Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I'll leave that one open for someone else to comment on. I just hope you never work for Webster. *rips hair out in a Beethovenian fashion* I wasn't aware Beethoven ripped or even pulled his hair out. :unsure: Lets stop arguing, wait until the deadline, and see what the critics have to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anders Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Admit that you were flagrantly wrong about harmony, and i'll get off your donkey. :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FPSchubertII Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CreationArtist Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Lets stop arguing, wait until the deadline, and see what the critics have to say. ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anders Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Would it make you happy if I submitted this instead? :whistling: *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CreationArtist Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 You can submit whatever you want so long as it meets the basic requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anders Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 gently caress you. :whistling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CreationArtist Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I'm not limiting dissonance, I actually encourage it [to a certain extent of course]. In ugliness there is beauty. Your rhapsody is an exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anders Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 It's beautifull to me. You speak about beauty as if it were objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CreationArtist Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I'm not talking about your latest upload here, I'm talking about the ones before it. Of course I'm kidding. --By kidding I mean half kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anders Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 My last upload is my early hackwork, it was meant for the sake of sarcasm.. I knew what you were referring to. Let's simply agree that our conceptions of beauty differ, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CreationArtist Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Very much so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueygh2 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I'm reposting my slightly worked over version of the previously posted song. Rhapsody-ChoreaArdens4.mid Rhapsody-ChoreaArdens2.nwc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Hehehehe, I should enter MY Rhapsody :whistling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anders Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 That might not be such a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Yeah....how come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CreationArtist Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 He's just jealous of your skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anders Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Shut it. :w00t: Yeah....how come? Wasn't ownership over that work disputed? Or have you resolved it? Or are you talking about a different work alltogether..? Perhaps I should just shut up. :whistling: Your call, though. I actually listened to the work yesterday - it's extremely accessible yet doesen't sacrifice too much sophistication to become banal.. It would fascinate both Sapphire and intelligent listeners alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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