isdnman

Hi Pervy, Yes I am aware of such a thing, but I'm not aware of how to make them into a theme,. ..

Hello everyone, When it comes to trying to write a sonata I face a lot of difficulty with themes - I tend to 'overdevelop' before anything becomes coherent. So for example I might start with a motivic cell or figure in a certain key and then suddenly switch to something else that is completely unrelated - different rhythm - different key etc. I also tend to use lots of leaps and dissonant intervals which makes everything sound angular and incoherent, and not memorable. I understand that in a stylistic sense all of this is manageable but I'm interested in writing in a more classical/romantic style I would like to better understand the following: What is the logic behind writing phrases ? Phrase structure - Formulas like AAAB or AA1BB1 How do you write something that is coherent and memorable? I understand for example that you should use steps and only leaps in climactic moments but this usually ends up sound 'cmajorish' with me How do you effectively use harmony in thematic/phrasal writing - cadences, and progressions etc. Thank you for your help ISDNMAN