Lesson with BeeKreaitif2008 (General Composition, Modern History, Techniques)

So, let's begin with you posting some of your work. I strong recommend you read through this particular lesson:

http://www.youngcomposers.com/forum/lesson-marsbars-general-composition-literature-history-14645.html

Since we'll be talking about similar things.

I have the sheet music here, and I can scan it onto the computer but how do I upload it to youngcomposers?

I have the sheet music here, and I can scan it onto the computer but how do I upload it to youngcomposers?

Click on the "manage attachments" button to upload the stuff to your post.

aw snap

here's page 2 my bad

And page three...that's all I have so far. I haven't had enough time to work on it due to driver's ed.

I would really check if those chords on the contrabass are even playable. I'm not so sure, since the distances to do double/triple stops on a contrabass' finger board are pretty large.

Why don't you distribute the chord between the cello and the contrabass? You can probably get the same effect without killing the contrabassist. Likewise with the chords you wrote on the violin and cello. If you want the chord to be played by split sections of the same group, you should probably write "divisi" to indicate that. Otherwise everyone's going to think it's a triple stop. With the flutes there's not much of a choice, you should still write it there too just to be sure.

As for what you're doing there, it's still way to early for me to give you an opinion. Writing for orchestra isn't necessarily easy, and if you're going to present this in an exam it'll be quickly dismissed unless you really know how to handle it.

So, I'm wondering, how much modern music do you know? Composers, pieces, anything is useful.

That's just a rough idea right now. It'll take me a while to work on it. Usually my final piece (I think and so does my teacher) is pretty incredible. My teacher makes me listen to Mozart and Beethoven, I don't know too much, but I study theory and he just helps me along. Right now, the chords are just for who I want to be playing chords and showing the chord progression, later on when I get into detail it'll be better.

That's just a rough idea right now. It'll take me a while to work on it. Usually my final piece (I think and so does my teacher) is pretty incredible. My teacher makes me listen to Mozart and Beethoven, I don't know too much, but I study theory and he just helps me along. Right now, the chords are just for who I want to be playing chords and showing the chord progression, later on when I get into detail it'll be better.

Wouldn't it be a good idea to sketch out the harmonies you want, before you start actually writing the parts? Like, just the functions and make a piano reduction of what you want to work with before you start thinking of how to orchestrate stuff?

Specially if you're not used to orchestrating, you should probably reduce it first to keep things easier to spot and control.

As other composers, I was asking if you knew anything from the 20th century, like Boulez, Debussy, John Cage, etc etc. If not, it's good to start looking into that. Start with the start of the 20th century and look up these composers:

Claude Debussy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Igor Stravinsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Paul Hindemith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Sorry this is taking me so long. School started this week, and I've been loaded w/ homework and stuff, I hope to be done with this stuff soon! Thanks for understanding.

-Bee Kreaitif

No problem. :>

I liked that he was different from other composers. That he didn't really stick to the A-B-A form, but that he kind of created his own form. At the same time though, I didn't like the fact that he used math to write his compositions. I'm not a math person and I can't understand how someone could possibly do that.

I haven't gotten to the songs yet, I will this afternoon, only because I'm at school and the computers have no sound. It's a sin if you ask me. :musicwhistle:

I liked that he was different from other composers. That he didn't really stick to the A-B-A form, but that he kind of created his own form. At the same time though, I didn't like the fact that he used math to write his compositions. I'm not a math person and I can't understand how someone could possibly do that.

I haven't gotten to the songs yet, I will this afternoon, only because I'm at school and the computers have no sound. It's a sin if you ask me. :musicwhistle:

... Say, where did you get the idea that Debussy used math to write his music?? Like... huh? Are you sure you mean Debussy? Not, like, Xenakis?

It said that he used math to write his music. Yes, Debussy.

Ah ha, well, that's very speculative. I wouldn't take that analysis so seriously, since it's mostly a matter of interpretation there. That's what I get for recommending a wiki article, haha.

Anyhow, did you check out the other composers?

Debussy's very uneven in terms of how he wrote what he wrote, and certainly there's a lot more to do with the french style overall and his influences than some sort of underlying formula. But, anyways, it's only of our interest that you actually check out these sounds.

We can discuss them in more detail after you've checked out the rest of the composers I recommended.

Ok, I'm not getting this done. I'm sorry for wasting your time. I just don't have any more time for these lessons. Thank you for the time that you have givin me.

~Bee Kreaitif