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Echoes of Flame - Concert Band

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Hello, I just finished a cinematic Grade 6 piece for concert band and I'd like to share it with everyone! I am very proud of it especially as a 16 year old composer. The story of the piece is a fire god of which has been long forgotten, he then awakes and imposes his wrath on humanity. While this is happening cultists gather to worship this fire god. There is no heroic conclusion, the god wins.

 

Hey Nicholas, I like your piece a lot! 

It sounds epic, and you take your time with each theme, which makes it sound coherent and easy to listen to. 

I don't have any experience writing for large ensembles, so I thought I'd only give feedback on your brass writing (I play the trumpet myself).

 First of all, in bar 21 consider raising the second trumpet an octave. That will make it easier for the first trumpet to hit his note: it is easier to play when being 'carried' by the rest of the section - and that two-octave gap is to large to give that effect. (As written it will sound like a solo instead of team work.) My teacher used to say: 'Trumpet players are surfers. We surf on sound.' 

At certain points in the score you write divisi for the trumpets, horns and first trombone - but you assigned three players to each part (in the preface)!! Which of the two voices should get two players? Either split up in three parts or make a note in their score, telling them what to do. But also consider that your brass section is humongous (A dozen players on trumpet and horn): You can change the parts to avoid all divisi. E.g. after bar 102 you could give the trumpets the root and fifth and the horns the root and third. In Musescore this will sound just the same, but when played by a real orchestra all voicings sound distinctly different. Not having divisi also is less confusing - especially if your players don't get (many) rehearsals. 
Btw that 1.5 octave jump in bar 106, first trumpet, looks really scary... 

Lastly, from that same bar 106 your trumpets and horns are playing fortissimo - which basically means 'as loud as possible'. Therefore the four (!) crescendo's you write later in the part won't have any effect... Either tell them to take back before each crescendo, or don't write them at all. 

That'll conclude my oddly-specific-feedback : ) . 

I should tell you again - I'm no pro at all, and your writing already is really good. Don't take this as harsh criticism: I'm just better at pointing out imperfections than giving elaborate compliments :)). I really enjoyed listening to your piece!

Kind regards, 

Marius

Hello @NicholasG!

I think @Marius_ already got many good points and I'm not going to repeat what s/he said. 

On 7/8/2025 at 7:32 AM, NicholasG said:

I am very proud of it especially as a 16 year old composer.

You should be proud of it. Your orchestration and mood portrayal is very mature as a 16 year old and I like many of them. Your motivic usage is lovely too. I really like the ending starting from b.93, good preparation to it and nice rhythmic variety. Maybe for me you can also add more varieties in the harmony as well, since most of the passages are more diatonic and less modulatory and dissonance. Thx for sharing!

Henry

New here, and 56, so not a "young" composer, but I'm liking your music.

On 7/11/2025 at 2:23 AM, Henry Ng Tsz Kiu said:

Hello @NicholasG!

I think @Marius_ already got many good points and I'm not going to repeat what s/he said. 

You should be proud of it. Your orchestration and mood portrayal is very mature as a 16 year old and I like many of them. Your motivic usage is lovely too. I really like the ending starting from b.93, good preparation to it and nice rhythmic variety. Maybe for me you can also add more varieties in the harmony as well, since most of the passages are more diatonic and less modulatory and dissonance. Thx for sharing!

Henry

 

Well, I meant I like YOUR compositions, but I like OP too!  Anything Classical and minimalistic. with craft that is not so obvious!

  • 4 months later...

This is a very cool piece! As a woodwind player i like all of the runs, one thing is that the first clarinet part is so high it’d be hard to play all those notes accurately so i’d recommend replacing it with Eb clarinet where it’s in a better range!  

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