Alex Weidmann Posted Wednesday at 06:44 PM Posted Wednesday at 06:44 PM Hi to all. Here's my latest attempt at orchestration practice. This one's from a piano miniature by Ravel. Haven't put all the slurs and fermatas in yet; but it's otherwise more or less complete. MP3 Play / pause JavaScript is required. 0:00 0:00 volume > next menu Menuet sur le nom d'Haydn (Ravel orchestration) #12 > next PDF Menuet sur le nom d'Haydn (Ravel orchestration) #12 1 Quote
PeterthePapercomPoser Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago Hi @Alex Weidmann! Ah, so you decided to try your hand at yet another Ravel piece to orchestrate! This time on a piece he wrote based on a transliteration of Haydn's name! I listened to the original by Ravel, and its duration is only about 2 minutes, while your orchestration is twice as long! And when listening to your orchestration, I definitely have the impression that it's being played too slow. I'm not saying up the tempo everywhere. Ravel's original was I think subject to some rubato tempo and rubato tempo is something that is possible for orchestra as well, not just in a solo piano piece. They way I would apply rubato is to literally put rit.'s and accel.'s where appropriate throughout the score. It could bring so much more life and vitality to the music if you did that. Thanks for sharing! 1 Quote
Alex Weidmann Posted 11 hours ago Author Posted 11 hours ago Thanks Peter, will try speeding it up. I couldn't find a metronome mark for this piece: so was trying to use my musical instincts! Think it probably should be a bit slower in the orchestral version, as it seems to work better that way; but I probably went too far. Actually haven't done Ravel before. So far I've orchestrated Debussy and Schumann. 1 Quote
Alex Weidmann Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago How about this version? I've basically split the difference between the tempo of my original rendition, and the piano performance mentioned above. Also added lots of tempo variations. MP3 Play / pause JavaScript is required. 0:00 0:00 volume > next menu Menuet sur le nom d'Haydn (Ravel orchestration) #22 > next PDF Menuet sur le nom d'Haydn (Ravel orchestration) #22 1 Quote
PeterthePapercomPoser Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago It's definitely better, but imo there should be a faster tempo/accel. up to bars 6 - 7 and 14 - 15. Cuz those figures seem like the culmination of the phrase. If it were my piece I would accel. up to that point and then perhaps rit. afterward. But it's your orchestration and you should of course do what you feel is right. Thanks for sharing this update! 1 Quote
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