Alex Weidmann Posted Wednesday at 06:44 PM Posted Wednesday at 06:44 PM (edited) Hi to all. Here's my latest attempt at orchestration practice. This one's from a piano miniature by Ravel. Haven't put all the slurs and fermatas in yet; but it's otherwise more or less complete. (N.B. Later revisions are attached lower down the thread.) Edited 1 hour ago by Alex Weidmann MP3 Play / pause JavaScript is required. 0:00 0:00 volume > next menu Menuet sur le nom d'Haydn (Ravel orchestration) #12 > next PDF Menuet sur le nom d'Haydn (Ravel orchestration) #12 1 Quote
PeterthePapercomPoser Posted Thursday at 05:27 AM Posted Thursday at 05:27 AM Hi @Alex Weidmann! Ah, so you decided to try your hand at yet another Ravel piece to orchestrate! This time on a piece he wrote based on a transliteration of Haydn's name! I listened to the original by Ravel, and its duration is only about 2 minutes, while your orchestration is twice as long! And when listening to your orchestration, I definitely have the impression that it's being played too slow. I'm not saying up the tempo everywhere. Ravel's original was I think subject to some rubato tempo and rubato tempo is something that is possible for orchestra as well, not just in a solo piano piece. They way I would apply rubato is to literally put rit.'s and accel.'s where appropriate throughout the score. It could bring so much more life and vitality to the music if you did that. Thanks for sharing! 1 Quote
Alex Weidmann Posted Thursday at 01:36 PM Author Posted Thursday at 01:36 PM Thanks Peter, will try speeding it up. I couldn't find a metronome mark for this piece: so was trying to use my musical instincts! Think it probably should be a bit slower in the orchestral version, as it seems to work better that way; but I probably went too far. Actually haven't done Ravel before. So far I've orchestrated Debussy and Schumann. 1 Quote
Alex Weidmann Posted Thursday at 11:28 PM Author Posted Thursday at 11:28 PM How about this version? I've basically split the difference between the tempo of my original rendition, and the piano performance mentioned above. Also added lots of tempo variations. MP3 Play / pause JavaScript is required. 0:00 0:00 volume > next menu Menuet sur le nom d'Haydn (Ravel orchestration) #22 > next PDF Menuet sur le nom d'Haydn (Ravel orchestration) #22 1 Quote
PeterthePapercomPoser Posted Thursday at 11:43 PM Posted Thursday at 11:43 PM It's definitely better, but imo there should be a faster tempo/accel. up to bars 6 - 7 and 14 - 15. Cuz those figures seem like the culmination of the phrase. If it were my piece I would accel. up to that point and then perhaps rit. afterward. But it's your orchestration and you should of course do what you feel is right. Thanks for sharing this update! 1 Quote
MJFOBOE Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Alex I enjoyed your orchestration ... especially the use of different chamber sections: winds, brass, strings in the reiteration of the theme. Mark 1 Quote
Alex Weidmann Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago Thanks Mark! I seem to have caught the orchestration bug recently. Have made another one today, this time of a never previously orchestrated Prelude by Ravel. Quote
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