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Never buy a 30$,80$, or 99$ violin even if black or eager to have a violin at once. I could not even produce a tone even after applying rosin. The only thing it was useful for was display. I think i will wait & later purchase a beautiful red Amati for 600$ dollars from the FienViolins website. :headwall: :sadtears: :evil: :D

(or over-successful? :thumbsup: ) What is relevant then :hmmm:? And according to who? (if I dared to pull a reverse-Boulez and said atonalism and serialism are irrelevant for our times, I'd got a few pounds of stones thrown at me :horrified: )... Nor I'm pretending to. I just had already mentioned them (as you had as well) when referring to top musical achievers who could be described as polymaths (while I then added a list of those who couldn't).