Finally! I love pop music. Not all, but I like them. I have no idea why people can despise them so much. Yeah, it uses the same chord progression, it uses the same instruments, same form etc. etc.

I like Robbie Williams, his older stuff though.

YouTube - Robbie Williams - Feel

YouTube - Robbie Williams - Angels

This is just to prove not all "pop musicians" classical ventures are scraggy

Is this about pop music or "popular" (aka non-art) music? o.O

I'm guessing the latter, but the title is misleading. :/

Is this about pop music or "popular" (aka non-art) music? o.O

I'm guessing the latter, but the title is misleading. :/

Hard to say. DOFTS posted Beirut which is neither Pop nor "popular". :thumbsup:

Hard to say. DOFTS posted Beirut which is neither Pop nor "popular". :thumbsup:

Popular music doesn't have to be popular to be popular. :thumbsup:

Hard to say. DOFTS posted Beirut which is neither Pop nor "popular". :thumbsup:

Only to some people :).

I think the "pop" label is sort of retarded but it's quickly understood what it's meant when we're comparing it to, say, classical music. Though, I would consider pop music "art" as well. So the distinction isn't that great.

I guess the problem is when people themselves don't write pop/rock/ETC music and are only in the classical field. There's just a different type of art to it that becomes evident if you're writing them songs. Though, if you're into modern music it's a little hard not to get involved with certain "pop" figures, like Zappa or Hendrix. It's all modern music, really.

I still think that composers should be able to rock out or jam like the best of them, at least in writing if not with actual instruments. It's a good experience.

So, um.

I read that radiohead's ok computer had some inspiration on Penderecki XD Weird. Plus in kid A there's something to do with the Tristan chord. ... Weird. Honestly radiohead doesn't do much for me though I appreciate the ideas. I'm much rather for the blur (on the self-titled album or 13)'s experiments and brit-pop mix.

I think the "pop" label is sort of retarded but it's quickly understood what it's meant when we're comparing it to, say, classical music.

A good point... My perspective:

There's BIG genres and little genres: "classical" "jazz" "pop" "other" are BIG genres. Generally, I can lump anything into one of these. I'm not big on labels, and don't tend to divide music along these lines...

"pop" is just a verbal designation to differentiate all the pop-type musics from the classical or jazz. "Pop" includes, but is not limited to: rock, folk, indie, rap, pop, emo, drum n bass....

Music has fragmented so severely I find it exhausting to try and pigeonhole and define genres anymore... To me, there's only music.

Oh man

I haven't heard the original, but this is pretty amazing:

I'm pretty sure most people understand rock, folk, indie, and rap as "popular music", not "pop music". :)

Pop music - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Popular music - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Of which, "popular" relates to the music's branching out from the fine arts, and it's traditionally performed for all classes of people, rather than just the upper-class elite that classical has historically catered to.

Po-tay-toe, po-tah-toe.

To-may-toe, to-mah-toe...

*calls the whole thing off*

Gaslighting Abbie

Slang of Ages

Glamour Profession

King of the World

Bodhisattva

-All songs by the greatest band EVER.

~Kal

I only listen to Rock -Grudge-Emo-Indie -Post- Hardcore- PreScreamo -Jazz- hip hop. If it isn't that genre, it's a no go.

^ You should try out grunge some time. ^_^

YouTube - Gipsy Kings - Bamboleo (Videoclip)

YouTube - Staind - It's Been Awhile

YouTube - Metallica - No Leaf Clover (Can't believe I'm the first to post a Metallica video!)

I lurve Muse. I used to be absolutely obsessed with them (and I even wrote extensively on Matt's compositional techniques). >_<

Space Dementia is epic. :o

Rufus Wainwright:

YouTube - Rufus Wainwright - Going to a town (official)

Nick Cave:

YouTube - Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Dig, Lazarus, Dig!!!

YouTube - Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Into My Arms

Ron Sexsmith:

YouTube - Ron Sexsmith - Secret Heart

YouTube - Ron Sexsmith - Right About Now

Nick Drake:

YouTube - Nick Drake - Place to be

YouTube - Nick Drake - 'Cello Song

Rufus is the loving man, a great composer (what's going on with his NYMet opera?)...and of course, Nick Drake too

Rufus is the loving man, a great composer (what's going on with his NYMet opera?).

*shrug* I dunno...last year he did that MAJOR July Garland production and toured "Release The Stars"... I suspect the Opera is going full tilt - he's a super busy and guy, eh!

But, yeah...Rufus is fantastic!

i actually read a few months back an article that said he, of all the commissions, had made the most progress...i remember it saying something like he was being influenced by Janacek too (haven't heard his operas yet), interesting

Even though some of you know my stance on this type of music, listening to some of the songs linked in this thread I can't help feeling the urge to restate it. The jaw-dropping simplemindedness and lack of artistic merit of pop music keeps astonishing me. Unbelievable how one-dimensional these songs sound and how limited and impoverished they are rhythmically, melodically, harmonically and structurally. This music is easy listening, easy watching, easy thinking. I've just listened to quite a number of songs linked here and seldom have I heard so many clich

Since this thread isn't about Gianluca's music preferences, I recommend that participants simply ignore his inflammatory comments.

If this turns into another flame war, this thread will also be closed.

edit: Just read the above post, so decided to remove comments.

Gianluca there must be some popular music that you like!?

Joe Jackson anyone?

YouTube - Joe Jackson - You Can't Get What You Want (Till You Know What You Want): Live

YouTube - Joe Jackson Is She Really Going Out With Him?

YouTube - Joe Jackson - It's Different For Girls

Well spoken QCC... Gianluca's on my lengthy list of people to be promptly ignored!

Rolling right along:

Bj