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Landscape to Portrait on Sibelius

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Hi. I'm a Sib 5.2 user. I had a layout question. I have a score for an unusual combination of instruments. From top to bottom- French Horn, Trumpet, Timpani, Glockenspiel, Snare Drum, Piano, 2 Violins.

My problem is that when I originally created the score, I made it in landscape format because it seemed to fit better on the page. Now that I need to make a concert score for the conductor, I tried turning the landscape version into a portrait score and there are numerous problems. Often the dynamics are covered by the staves or squished into the staves, there are large spaces between systems, and there are many pages with only one system on the entire page. I've tried editing engraving rules, and changing system and staff size, and this helps a little with the dynamic issues, but there are still pages with 50 percent of the score blank and the other 50 percent one system on it. Is there an easier way to fix this rather than having to edit the engraving rules by trial and error? I'm really not sure what numbers to put in, so I've just been trying random things, sometimes it helps, sometimes it doesn't. Can someone give me some advice on what to do? It seems to work better as a 9 by 12 concert score rather than an 8 and 1/2 by 11 printer paper size, but there are still problems.

I've tried creating a new score entirely so that it has all the defaults set, and when I add the instruments there is still the same problem with only one staff on the page and the rest of the page is blank.

I'm gonna give you a process to follow and it should clean up your score. Best to make a backup copy in case you screw up. Also, do post the score here on YC so I can check it out and indeed see what the problem is.

Follow these steps:

  1. CTRL + A (Select All)
  2. CTRL + SHIFT + U (Unlock Layout Formating)
  3. CTRL + A
  4. Layout > Reset Space Above Staff
  5. Layout > Reset Space Below Staff
  6. CTRL + D

    1. Under "Size" > Select Letter (or A4)
    2. Under "Size" > Check "Portrait"
    3. Under "Size" > "Saff Size" > Set as appropriate. See the preview and set it to a number that is comforable. Generally, 4-5 staff scores are 5-6mms.
    4. Click "OK"
    5. [*]CTRL + A

      [*]CTRL + SHIFT + N (Reset Note Spacing)

      [*]CTRL + SHIFT + P (Reset Position)* Will reset any dynamics to their default locations.

      [*]CTRL + SHIFT + F (Reset Design)* Will reset any adjusted objects (like slurs and beams and lines) to their default design (arc of slur for example)

      [*]CTRL + SHIFT + ALT + P (Reset Score Position)

      [*]CTRL + SHIFT + ALT + D (Reset Score Design)

      [*]CTRL + SHIFT + ALT + S (Show Empy Staves)

      That will reset all the objects in your score and parts to their default locations.

      A note about "Engraving Rules". DO NOT adjust them for single instances. They are global settings for the score. If there's a layout problem, or something clashes, it's usually as simple as Click + Drag the staff or note or object etc.

      Best of luck!

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thanks for the advice, I fixed the problem!

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