July 3, 200916 yr Every year in October the earth passes thru the same part of space that Halley's Comet passed thru the last time it visited the inner solar system (relatively speaking). When this happens there is always a few good nights of shooting stars. These particular shooting stars seem to come from the constellation Orion. Hence the name The Orionids. This is a companion piece to another piece I have already posted called The Leonids and will be part of a presently untittled suite. The piece is all GPO and later I may do it again with EWQL. We shall see. Here is The Orionids The Orionids.mp3 - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage For those that might of missed The Leonids, Here it is The Leonids.mp3 - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage or here http://www.youngcomposers.com/forum/leonids-19794.html Ron
July 4, 200916 yr Ron The finished version of this is magnificant! I've already told you what I liked and ways to improve this, so I won't waste your time with that. Just wanted to drop by and let you know that the finished version of this is awesome! Thanks for posting Vince
July 4, 200916 yr I really liked this. Particulary the Oboe. One of these days I'll be able to compose like you do Ron, thats the goal! xD
July 4, 200916 yr Ron, this is an extremely enjoyable piece. Upon first listen( I admit I wasn't focusing on the music) I was. Listening absentmindedly one second, and I heard an oboe playing melody over chords...the next time I recall tuning in was in the middle section, and I specifically thought 'what happened, where am I'. I went back after I heard the whole piece and realized the theme change was just that abrupt. And I really wish there had been some segue into from the original theme, because they are so very different. The same when going back into the end section, it was a G.P. and suddenly back to the original theme and I just really wish there had been some segue to connect the themes. With the pauses in between sections, this actually gave me a feeling of Sonata form, except for there're no clear 5-1 cadences to let me know I've reached the end of A or B. So yea, segue was my only issue with the piece. I really liked how the recap. of the A section incorporated the general melody from the A section but also the rhythmic motif of the B section. It was a recap, literally. You said you did this with GPO, is there a score? Great job. You capture the space idea well, with random spontaneous motion in the midst of wide open nothingness......that's a compliment.
July 5, 200916 yr Author Vince I told you I wanted to add to this and I did so perfectly. I worked from 11:30 'til 2:00 and couldn't believe how well I got the added section make the transistion to the last theme flawless. I congratulated myself on the back and the program crashed. Of course I was working so fast that I had forgot to save any of it. Aaaaargh!!!! So for the next hour I tried to recreate that little gem but it was too late. The idea had vanished. So I worked for the next 4 hours trying to get a 30 second addition to get a transistion to do something that would work. Still don't have it right, but I am closer. Thanks for dropping by. I will let you know if I ever get it right. Sax Set your goals higher my friend. I thought you said you had a piece that was ready to post. What happened to it? OMWBWAY I want the 2nd theme to jump in and make a huge statement, so there will be no gradual transistion there. But I have known for a while that between the B and A theme there has to be a better transistion. See my comment to Vince about that. I did this in Sonar PE 8, so the score looks pretty bad. Right now when I tried to look at it as a PDF, it printed out over 100 pages at the end, of just empty staves, so I gotta figure out how to get rid of those. But I will attempt to post some kind of score. Thanks guys Ron
July 5, 200916 yr I like the sound of the oboe, shiny sort of, I can't discribe it. I also like your melodic or mysterious melodies, really giving off the feeling of space as you have done in the leonids as well. The bells sound is also sparkly, if you know what I mean, and stands out a lot when it comes out, a good think imo. After the bells, I'm afraid I got bored of the rising and falling notes. Now I'm waiting for the melody to switch, as I think you went on to long. Ooh, here we go, I love the piano behind the others, yet the melody, great touch. I don't like when it's descending behind the violin melody much though. I also like the first melody that returns at the end, except incorperating middle melodies, andthe last note is heavenly. Overall, great piece, except for the middle where I got slightly bored, but still wanted to here the end.
July 6, 200916 yr Author Norby Not sure what you mean by forced unless it is in the tempos. I have considered slowing the tempos in some spots. impressario I am thinking about altering this a bit to not have the oboe's part so prominent in the second half of the 2nd theme. I have altered it some already, but may even do it some more. That may get rid of some of the raising and lowering notes. Thanks guys Ron
July 7, 200916 yr Rolifer - First off I enjoyed your piece! I enjoyed especially your orchestration - especially the running motives and bits of quartal harmony. Reminded me a little of Holst with late Debussy. I also like the new directions in your harmony that show in this piece. Maybe I have been listening to some of your very old stuff but I like this harmonic language more than your earlier one. I'll listen to it again and the companion piece when I have a chance.
July 7, 200916 yr Ron As a description of a meteor shower in the night sky this piece really hits the nail on the head! I like the way you create a sense of a vast space but with motion. I find the structure and orchestration well-balanced and quite satisfying. One of your best works. Herb
July 9, 200916 yr When I say "forced" it's nothing to do with the tempo. I think of that strange slides from one note to other, and the strange rhytms. It would be better with lesser slides and more relaxed accompaniment (eg in the piano parts). It's sounds like as if you dont know what you want to write. It's strange to me. Not a "sophisticated" piece by any means (to me). Anyway it's good. I can see that you worked a lot with it, but I had to write down this things I've mentioned. Keep on composing! :thumbsup:
July 13, 200916 yr Author :thumbsup:Composerorganist I do hope you enjoyed The Leonids as well. Thanks Herb Always great to hear from you. Hope you can find some time to compose. Norby The strange rhythms are what these piece is all about. Take away them and you have a typical run of the mill piece. I know that my music isn't for everyone but I appreciate you taking the time to listen and to comment. Thanks guys Ron
July 13, 200916 yr I feel that "the leonids" piece would fit very well into a film score as it does tell a story quite well, but as a piece of concert music maybe it is a bit too varied? This is my opinion of course and maybe my feeble mind cannot discern the connection between the many ideas. I enjoyed each idea on its own, but their overall connection wasn't apparent to me. Technically, the piece is wonderful. You certainly have a firm grasp of melody, harmony, orchestration and rhythm. Nothing I can criticize in that aspect. Very nice.