Elektro-primitive (render 1)

Since the original post, this has changed names to "Electro-shaman". The current render is 3c. The song is at the bottom of the player.

A few notes: this time I worked exclusively on transitions. I had originally planned to do a reprise of section 2 and the intro after section 3 but now that I've smoothed out the transitions I'm almost wondering if the composition would stand on its own the way it is. It's only 3 minutes. I'd still have to tweak the ending, but the idea sort of appeals to me. Any thoughts?

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Hey Steve.

I ran into you a couple of weeks ago on the IDM forum-small world after all?

I like your music-above average compared to most that I hear on these forums.

Elektro-primitive sounds unfinnished?

Tword the end it breaks down and doesn't go anywhere-perhaps you should work on extending that?

I like your choice of sounds.

What are you using for drums?

Peace,

Chuck Silva

Hey, thanks for listening. Yeah, I joined IDM Forums about two months ago. I'm trying to extend my music communities, become more involved in places that matter.

The song is definitely not done. It's about half done. As far as the drums goes, that's a bit difficult to explain. There are five drum tracks. The initial one was done in Reason then exported to Reaper with delays on the drums but clean hi-hats. Then I did a composite of those two and "printed" a track with massive gating and a panning tremolo (that's the left and right hits). Then I layered on two tracks of acoustic drums done with a Combinator and then exported. One has about 6% reverb and the other is filtered. Then I automated volume controls for the tracks. In between "pressings" I compressed the hell out of it and used a 4-band distortion for body. I saved the effect chain as a template so that I can go back and reprint if I want to change the sound. I'm still undecided about it, but for now it's working all right (working right enough, that is, that I can continue forward). At some point I'm thinking of chopping each of the drum elements up into sections and retriggering them with a sampler for more control.

This started as an experiment to work entirely with audio ("printed" media). My thought was to work in a digitally equivalent way as tape. Everything is done in stages. I have three different hosts to create the audio and then a project where I work exclusively with the rendered audio.

Very much appreciate the listen!

I went to your page and I only saw the render 2 of "elektro-Primitive" so I heard that one ....

there is a tiny clip in the beggining of the file ....

wow after the introduction the action is very good !! excellent .... but it gets cutted .... I think you'll change that no ? ....

(for the development of the action ... if you just repeat but in other tonality it will sound brand new)

very good :thumbsup: ... I come back to listen the final version ...

Hey, Daniel, yeah I left for two days of camping so I thought I'd throw up the second render since the sound was better. Thanks for listening, and for the comments!

Steve

Render 3 is now up.

I'm really curious about reactions to the new section. I have tweaked a lot of the sound early-on, trying to open up holes with the EQ so that instruments fit better together sound-wise, but I'm curious to see if the new section seems like it fits. I started a piece called "The Killing Machines" about three years ago and the third major section in this is a small section of that. I know the end blathers on -- I'll fix that, it's mostly the transition and whether that works...

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this time I felt the initial bell doesn't sound very good, cheapy .... (I have some good church bells samples, I'll put ones for you in box.net .... you'll see, are better)

These are true concert bells

Big Bell C.wav

Big Bell G.wav

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In the action part .... the snare drum :hmmm: .... do you like the "piccolo snare-drum" sound ? it could fit there no ?

The action still gets cutted, the part 1:24-end cuts the development, to be honest, i wouldn't even think in creating something else until 3 minutes of that tough-guy music have passed ..... (because is good) seems like this "tought guy" is tired and only can fight for a few moments .... if you plan to add that complementary action later, do it now, ... is expected .....

did you listen the last track of my album ? (I will hold to the end

I don't permit a rest for the synths until you think "ok, ok, it's enough, it's enough! "I feature a dual segment with strong and stronger, .... then I "allow" a resting part for the listener ..... then I strike again with the strong,stronger and when you think that was all I feature the strongest ... then the listener think "Oh my God what is happening" then I rest again ..... etc ... etc ...

The action part in your piece is worthy enough to develop 2 minutes of continue action, then the segment you have already and then strike again with the same 2 minutes or even more and stronger ..... that will make it a Superb piece.

Some suggestions for the development is to repeat the initial guitar motif in high synths .... (in octaves) .... change up from Fm to Bbm then Cm .... adding stuff etc.....

Sorry If I look like I'm giving lessons to you :D ... it's just what I would do ....

good job anyway, .... we're in the same race, just with different shoes :D

Hey, Daniel, thanks for the comments.

this time I felt the initial bell doesn't sound very good, cheapy ....

I'm undecided about the bell. There are three layers of bells the middle and deep layers are real bells. The top layer is Ogun and I automated some XY action to get the resonance. My thought was to have it sound "sort of like a bell" and then be completed as a bell, if that makes sense. I'll think about it.

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Re: your other comments. I'm really trying to do something different. I have a good friend who suggests a more classical approach with interweaving themes and such. I don't know. What I do know is that I want to hang my donkey out there in space and really push myself to do new things, work with new sounds and ideas (but still have it be listenable). I feel like I'm on the verge of a breakthrough.

No worries on sounding like a "teacher" (that's the risk one always takes with honest criticism). I always want honesty. And unless someone is being deliberately condescending, I take it like everything else in the post -- advice. So I appreciate that.

Steve

Render 3c now up (notes in original post).

Steve Mueske - ReverbNation