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Piano Concertino No. 1: I- Allegretto

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My first work for orchestra and solo instrument to date.. It comes in 3 movements: I Allegretto, II Lento, III Allegro.

Its in a classical style, influenced by the piano concertos of Mozart (K488 in particular), Beethoven, and of course Gershwin and the Rach concertos.

Very accessible, and it breaks no rules, the aim of it was to write modern music that is paletable to the ordinary person. So no tone rows :D

Take the time to tell me what you think. I want it ripped apart by you people! :D

Thanks in anticipation.

Youll find it on my new myspace page:

Paul Cecchetti on MySpace Music - Free Streaming MP3s, Pictures & Music Downloads

Piano Concertino in E.pdf

I'd like to rip it apart, but can you give a score :)

BTW what did you mean by "Breaks no rules"

Paul

Welcome to YC.

A score always helps if you want your pieces to be critiqued in depth. It also helps if you comment in other people's threads. Some will even return the favor.

There is nothing wrong with what you have here but to my ears the piano in the first just doesn't seem to vary its rhythms much at all. It just seems like a lot of 16th notes.

Better samples would help a lot, but I know they can be expensive.

Again, welcome to YC.

Ron

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yeah good advice man, thanks for taking the time to help out the newbie! by "breaking no rules" i mean that (for the most part), conventional harmonic rules are obeyed,, modulations to the dominant or the relative minor, clarity of structure etc... nothing too off the wall.

by "breaking no rules" i mean that (for the most part), conventional harmonic rules are obeyed,, modulations to the dominant or the relative minor, clarity of structure etc... nothing too off the wall.

I thought so mch, but those so called rules have been broken for centuries... :w00t: so why obey them?

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true enough...but a wiser man than I once told me that you must first know the rules before you can break them...consider it like a preliminary exercise! :)

It's okay, but the notation kind of bothers me. Did you consider maybe doing 7/16, or doubling your tempo and going by eighth notes? The reason why I ask is that each measure looks like two measures of 7- it would be much easier to read without all the double-dots.

Have you written any chamber music? It might be a good idea to start with a smaller group and hone your orchestration skills. Also, never underestimate how important detailed dynamics and articulations are. They might not show up on the midi, but they make a big difference to the performer.

good luck, keep working!

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yeah iv done some chamber music alright, its far easier and far less frustrating to work on :) on the doubling of the note values, thats not a bad suggestion, iv put that into the revised score, sibelius is handy like that. i wasnt entirely pleased with how the first movement came out, the chords are kinda static you know? the second and third movements were a greater success i think, at least as far as orchestration goes. thanks for you input! :)

There are some nice moments and progressions but for me it felt a little too metronomic -ie. the melody and accompaniment sticks to the same rhythms for large sections.

This is not helped by the recording which is very robotic because Sibelius can't see the tempo changes and little rits and ralls that are common in nearly every score and will add musicality to the piece.

So if I were you I'd try for more ebb and flow in your next piece and less of the static tempos and accompaniments.

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Well i didnt hear any Mozart, Beethoven or Rach, quite possibly the tiniest amount of Gershwin. It had more of a Jamaican blues feel to it, with the rhythm's going on. I didnt like it, very much the sound of a studenty type work. Then i had a listen to the sonata for flute, guitar and percussion, the sonata for cello and piano and short piece for flute quartet, and i had almost given up hope of finding any interesting music on your myspace site, when i thought what the hell i'll click on the cosmic rain dance.

Did you suddenly become possessed by the spirit of Messiaen and Gaubert????:O

This is 20 million light years away from that other stuff on your site.

The cosmic rain dance is very very good indeed. While the other music lacks any creative spark and sounds like music by numbers the cosmic rain dance is stuffed full of wonderful moments and inventiveness. Is that you playing?

My only critique would be that its too long, and would start to tire the listener with its improvisatory feel but i understand you were probably just going with the flow.

First of all welcome to YC.

Now when I hear a concerto of any instrument the first thing that I hear is the main two themes and to tell you the truth I don't like it very much cause I find it very simple.I don't have nothing with simplicity I like minimal but this seems to me very school staff.

By the way I like very much Philip Glass Cello Concerto.

In orchestration I didn't see any repeats of the theme on other instruments why don't you play with it?

My ''tip'' like c7music said is you can try experiment with some smaller groups.

I think a concerto is the most comlete work for a composer even today.

And to be a good one you must have reach a level as composer.

I have a question why don't you put some vst Instruments???

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