Salemosophy Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 I don't have a problem with you correcting your statements or explaining them if they seem bizarre, AA, I have a problem with you insulting others for pointing out a problem with your statements. What problem? What is the problem with my statements (other than simple comprehension on the part of the reader) that needs revision or correction? If you're referring to the "Twit" comment, that's actually a reference to this little gem of stupidity... Please don't just post lies to make yourself look smart...otherwise someone who knows better will fact check you and call your donkey out, just sayin'. Mind you, Kremlin posts no facts, nothing 'calling me out', and still has the audacity to call me a liar. But his stupidity doesn't earn him the "Twit" comment? Please... I've used worse insults and received less scraggy from you, SSC. Move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Kremlin Posted October 11, 2009 Author Share Posted October 11, 2009 From what I gather, his argument is that agreeing with the idea that music should cater to an audience makes you a communist... It was never really an argument, but more of a blatant correlation. I wouldn't say something as simplistic and stupid as "Well if you want a lot of people to like your music then you're a capitalist," because I've seen retards use that argument against American capitalism/globalization and whining about the commodification of art as a service to mass consumers. Oh wait, that's the crux of all neo-marxist critical theory lawl lawl lawl loling to the bank now. Also, he seems to think Feldman's ideas that art should not be restricted to catering to an audience produces something better... maybe better art? I don't quantify art, especially not music. I don't believe in hierarchies (low brow, middlebrow, high brow...) and I'm definitely not an elitist. Neither is Feldman... It's kind of like how Obama and Barney Frank (blackman and a gay jew) were called Nazis. Now, yeah I don't like either of them, but nazis? COME OOOOOOOOON. Long story short, never in my mature life have I said "this art is better than that art." As far as I'm concerned, Bjork, T-Pain, Mozart and John Zorn are all equal. The whole discussion lacks any context beyond two quotes from two different historical figures in two very different historical periods. It's a wash. 'Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salemosophy Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 It was never really an argument, but more of a blatant correlation. I'm not saying correlation = causation or anything (I've already pointed this out btw) but we can't ignore them. What, then, are you trying to point out? I deduced from your use of the quotes what your position on the matter is... especially when you call those composers who write for the audience "Communists", which you do... in the opening post. What, if not inequality, are you attempting to explore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Kremlin Posted October 11, 2009 Author Share Posted October 11, 2009 What, then, are you trying to point out? I deduced from your use of the quotes what your position on the matter is... especially when you call those composers who write for the audience "Communists", which you do... in the opening post. What, if not inequality, are you attempting to explore? Sigh It's hyperbole, Antiatonality...........it's hyperbole. Hyperbole... Did it ever occur to you that my opinion might be different? We're all like snowflakes you know, or so they tell me. Not every post, or springboard for discussion, is simply some ranting soapbox for a person with an opinion. I have my own opinions on things, I'm not here to profess them. I'm just an observer and I OBSERVE things. Ya know? Shame on you for thinking this whole issue is so black and white, the "us v.s. them" thing is just so damn old. I just wanted to make a striking post to spark some conversation on the issue of socialist realism and the traits some schools of postmodernism share with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salemosophy Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Sigh... Hyperbole... Blah blah... shame on you AA... blah blah... I just wanted to make a striking post to spark some conversation on the issue of socialist realism and the traits some schools of postmodernism share with it. Most people assume a position when posting these kinds of 'conversation' threads... it's called Persuasive Argumentation... that's what 99% of threads on topics such as these generally do. One person makes an argument, several others come along and either agree or disagree with it. Generally, that's how I approach this kind of material. If that's shameful, well, I'm not alone. At least I have an opinion and have the gumption to share it. Shame on me? How does that not make you the biggest asshole right now? Because you just now said, "Oh, well, I wasn't making an argument, har dee har har...?" What traits do some schools of postmodernism share with socialist realism? I'd recommend acknowledging context, historical or otherwise... because if your generalizations are based on gaping holes in your knowledge (like your "If you write music for an audience, then congratulations because you're a Communist!"), I'm going to point that out over and over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Kremlin Posted October 11, 2009 Author Share Posted October 11, 2009 (like your "If you write music for an audience, then congratulations because you're a Communist!"), I'm going to point that out over and over again. Wow, did you take that seriously? Man...I'm done with this thread Wow Just wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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