olivercomposer Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Hello Guys, Here's my brand new symphonic music. I asked ChatGPT to help me to choose a topic to write a piece of music. It gave me a description of the music that I should compose. Here's the description: "Create a soundtrack for an epic adventure film that follows a group of explorers as they journey through a mystical, fantastical world filled with perilous landscapes and magical creatures. The music should capture the sense of wonder, excitement, and danger that accompanies the adventurers on their quest. Use a combination of orchestral and choral elements to create a sweeping, cinematic sound that will transport audiences to another world. In the opening section, use grand, sweeping chords and soaring melodies to evoke the sense of awe and wonder that comes with discovering a new world. The music should be filled with anticipation and excitement, hinting at the epic adventure to come. As the adventurers' journey through different landscapes, the music should shift to reflect the mood and tone of each location. Use dark, ominous chords and driving percussion to create a sense of danger and suspense during the more perilous moments, while lighter, more uplifting melodies can convey a sense of triumph and victory during moments of triumph and success. For the climax of the piece, create a powerful, triumphant section that uses a full orchestral and choral sound to convey the sense of achievement and triumph that comes with completing an epic quest. The music should be bold and triumphant, with soaring melodies and driving percussion that will leave audiences feeling inspired and energized. Overall, the piece should capture the sense of adventure and wonder that comes with exploring a new world, as well as the challenges and obstacles that must be overcome along the way. Use a combination of orchestral and choral elements to create a unique and captivating sound that will transport audiences to another world." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omicronrg9 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Hi Oliver. Let's listen to it. • At the very beginning, the strings may hit too hard, blurring the harp arpeggio, but that's just a detail. • The change of rhythm at ~0:30 is a bit less subtle than what I'd like it to be, but just my taste :B. In comparison, the transition to the more battle-like music near the first minute seems much more alright, as well as the one that follows it. • The voice aaahs don't convince me too much, specially in the lower notes, perhaps it needs more voices around. • I find there's not many changes on dynamics, specially on the background strings; you rely on instruments for that, which isn't necessarily bad but starting piano in the beginning and balancing a bit more the voices for the trumpet to be more isolated would output a better result in my opinion. I can sense a bit of a crescendo in the final section but I think it's not enough, imo adding more dynamics to the various contrasts that you have successfully made would make the piece even better. In summary, another great piece that I had pleasure listening to, with some details that didn't convince me here and there but nothing big. Kind regards, Daniel–Ømicrón. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivercomposer Posted March 20, 2023 Author Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) Hi, Thank you for your comment! I modified the music piece. I added a harp arpeggio at about 00:30, it helps you to understand the tempo change. I also modified the beginning of the piece of music, I turned down the gain on the string section. I set up the mastering because I added too much maximizer to the track. Unfortunately, the maximizer killed the dynamics in the track. Maybe tomorrow I will examine how to create a more epic sound at the "aaaa" voice part, but I don't promise anything! Thank you again! Edited March 20, 2023 by olivercomposer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omicronrg9 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Don't hesitate to ping me in case you make and publish these changes! I look forward to listen to them, and no pressure of course :B. Kind regards!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivercomposer Posted March 20, 2023 Author Share Posted March 20, 2023 Just now, Omicronrg9 said: Don't hesitate to ping me in case you make and publish these changes! I look forward to listen to them, and no pressure of course :B. Kind regards!! I have already uploaded the new version. On SoundCloud, you have an opportunity to replace an existing track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omicronrg9 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, olivercomposer said: I have already uploaded the new version. Oh yeah I was referring to the possible changes in the "aaahs", the harp sounds nice though since I got used to the change I'm not sure if I can determine if it summed up much. In any case, as long as it works for you, it's fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivercomposer Posted March 20, 2023 Author Share Posted March 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, Omicronrg9 said: Oh yeah I was referring to the possible changes in the "aaahs", the harp sounds nice though since I got used to the change I'm not sure if I can determine if it summed up much. In any case, as long as it works for you, it's fine! I haven't changed the "aaa" part yet. 🙂 Maybe tomorrow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Ng Tsz Kiu Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Hi @olivercomposer, The opening certainly gives the adventure feeling. The opening harp is fine for me since harp is always overpowered no matter how hard the harpists pluck their instruments haha. I enjoy the brass calls and they are very beautiful. In 0:57 the journey through the magical world of Earthsea and Middle-earth suddenly turns into a battle mode which is abrupt for me and I hope there's more transition in it. It's quite typical for you to add the single female voice "aaa" in your music and I love that actually! It adds the epic feeling in a movie trailer. So this piece can be divided into 3 parts: opening adventure, middle battle and lastly the "aaa" part. I think it for sure matches the description by ChatGPT and nice job on this! Henry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatguy v2.0 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 10 hours ago, olivercomposer said: I asked ChatGPT to help me to choose a topic to write a piece of music. Let me first start by saying that morally I HATE this. I hate that you needed a prompt from AI to give you any inspiration. Do you not feel anything when walking outside? Where do you live? What environment can you go to for inspiration? What questions do you have from our world understanding of science? And of nature? And of love, and despair, and progress, and sadness, and illuminating joy? What actually inspired this piece??? Sorry, but I feel like I'm alone in a world penetrated and infected with a growing need to be glued to technology. I've never felt more alive then when walking the trails of Colorado alone, or the river banks of Alaska with nothing but a .357 to keep me company. Are we so succumbed to the world of fantasy created from an inhuman way that we've lost the connection we have with the actual world we live in? Sure, your music is created by you. And it sounds really nice, so no comment there. I guess that's the ultimate goal, right? But God, I absolutely hate what the music you wrote about is "inspired" from. Maybe I'm just becoming an old man or something, maybe this is what aging actually is. But dude, write about a breakup, or the breeze you feel on a walk in the forest at dawn. Hell, even write about the order you got at Chipotle that was messed up. But any mention of ChatGPT, or AI, or anything of the like, my brain gets frizzle fried from a fiery ferocity that stems from the inhuman. Again, sorry.... I just hate the prompt. In reality, if you would have just said, "here's my newest piece, hope you enjoy", I probably would have said nothing but positive things about the actual music. But instead, I decided to take out my own issues on your post. So uh, again, lovely music, keep composing and all that. 😄 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivercomposer Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 Unfortunately, this harp is too harsh regardless to the velocity. Somehow its sound has too much high frequencies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterthePapercomPoser Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Wow - the ChatGPT prompt is really elaborate and drawn out! I don't know how ChatGPT works - did you have to ask multiple questions? Or did you get this whole prompt from just one query? I had a friend who asked an AI once (don't know which one) to give him a prompt for a musical composition and the prompt it gave was too detailed and involved and he didn't feel inspired to write anything so he just ended up asking me for a prompt instead and I was able to give him some music theory concept that inspired him instead. But I'm glad that this involved fantasy prompt inspired you and that you could work with it. Your sections of music really give the right impression for what the prompt said was supposed to be in the piece. It's amazing that it took formal structure of the music into account! Thanks for sharing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivercomposer Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 I tried two or three times before I get a good answer and a useable brief. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivercomposer Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 49 minutes ago, Thatguy v2.0 said: Let me first start by saying that morally I HATE this. I hate that you needed a prompt from AI to give you any inspiration. Do you not feel anything when walking outside? Where do you live? What environment can you go to for inspiration? What questions do you have from our world understanding of science? And of nature? And of love, and despair, and progress, and sadness, and illuminating joy? What actually inspired this piece??? Sorry, but I feel like I'm alone in a world penetrated and infected with a growing need to be glued to technology. I've never felt more alive then when walking the trails of Colorado alone, or the river banks of Alaska with nothing but a .357 to keep me company. Are we so succumbed to the world of fantasy created from an inhuman way that we've lost the connection we have with the actual world we live in? Sure, your music is created by you. And it sounds really nice, so no comment there. I guess that's the ultimate goal, right? But God, I absolutely hate what the music you wrote about is "inspired" from. Maybe I'm just becoming an old man or something, maybe this is what aging actually is. But dude, write about a breakup, or the breeze you feel on a walk in the forest at dawn. Hell, even write about the order you got at Chipotle that was messed up. But any mention of ChatGPT, or AI, or anything of the like, my brain gets frizzle fried from a fiery ferocity that stems from the inhuman. Again, sorry.... I just hate the prompt. In reality, if you would have just said, "here's my newest piece, hope you enjoy", I probably would have said nothing but positive things about the actual music. But instead, I decided to take out my own issues on your post. So uh, again, lovely music, keep composing and all that. 😄 I think you misunderstood this situation. I just wanted to simulate how producers/directors work with a composer. That was a challenge for me to write a piece of music according to a description. It's not about the inspiration it's about the professionalism... 🙂 Thank you for your comment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisp Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 As I listen: First of all, really an exceptional achievement, with a mastery of the tool that gives a very convincing result. The music side of video games appears more clearly during the rhythmic part, with the percussion ostinato. And the climax seems to never want to fall back, when the vocal soloist seizes an Irish "cliché" melodic line, which she no longer wants to let go... And she stays there, probably raised, too brave to be credible (but it's not your fault, you had to attack the director. (who is he already? Chat GPT ??? But hey... he really doesn't have the meaning of the story this guy... Fortunately, he is well surrounded and has a talented composer to try to raise his level a little!) Then again and again, the choir, inflamed, possessed, in a great epic tutti (it's a word that often comes up in the director's mouth)... After my listening: I am not a specialist in the world of large blockbusters (even if I have my classics, but they are a little vintage now), but it seems that the specifications have been perfectly respected, and I suppose that GPT chat should be fully satisfied (hihi)! For my taste, perhaps (and this is only a remark without any value judgment, because I know the work represented by the slightest minute of music), a more restrained, quieter, or softer space would have been interesting, in order to restore the necessary scale of force. Like a return to calm before the big special FX part on a green screen. A way to also perhaps bring a little epic narration (this word always), which can be judicious in the music in the image. (Master Yoda could have said ( if he has not already said it), "strength exists only because sweetness there is"). Maybe just this about the music itself: I know that you have imposed an exercise on yourself (I do that myself and I understand you). And for that you have drawn from the tank of the genre, with the typical ostinatos, the solo that is epic and everything that follows. However, a small nuance on my part to say that I find that as soon as we hear this kind of tool a little too used, the vague idea of a cliché appears to me. (and I know, once again, that the cliché is also the purpose of your exercise). With your talent and mastery of writing, I want to hear even more personal things. Here it is... But I'm going to search, to find other things from you to listen to because it's definitely worth it. Come on, don't take my few irony traits or my little criticisms badly. I like to hear a beautiful realization and I assure you that it is very pleasant to listen to in context. In addition, your curiosity for GPT cat is quite understandable, (who has not tried to question the oracle gets up right away or is silent forever!).... K. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Ng Tsz Kiu Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, olivercomposer said: I think you misunderstood this situation. I just wanted to simulate how producers/directors work with a composer. That was a challenge for me to write a piece of music according to a description. It's not about the inspiration it's about the professionalism... 🙂 Thank you for your comment! Actually this will be a great challenge to train yourself as a professional composer. As an amateur one I can only write what I want to write, but as a professional composer especially with your musical style which is close to an incidental and cinematic one, you have to received commissions from producers whose voice and opinion will not be much different from the ChatGPT one as they are all very general and sometimes you won't even know what they want at all! That's great job done oliver! But I also know what Vince said as well. Able to compose with self-generated inspiration will better reflect you own selves and make more unique music. So it depends what do you want to do with your music actually! Henry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivercomposer Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share Posted March 21, 2023 Thank you for your comments, I will consider all of your standpoints. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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