(It's better this time) Never Forget Reimagined - Version 2.0 (Remastered) || Kyle H. (UncleRed99)

The title sums it up... Let me know what you guys think 🙂

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Hey man

This final (?) version is really cool. I wanted to share some takeaways that I hope you consider for FUTURE music, not this piece in particular. 

Your music has a lot of emotional depth and tone color, and your studies and/or admiration of film scoring shows in this work. You do a great job at providing the background to something happening on screen, or as part of the story. Is this correct? Sorry if I'm wrong. 

If that's the case, what does this go with, or what were you writing this for? I'm always curious of the story that film music chooses to be supplementary to. I only say this because your music completely ignores (imo) melody, which is what the listener of an abstract environment has to grasp onto. There are no lyrics, so I can't grasp the story. There's no melody, so I can't hear what you intend for me to follow. I only have lush orchestration with harmony and tonal colors to hold onto, and although great, it leaves me asking what you are trying to say. Like I said, if there's something specific this is about, or if you wrote in general to be applied to a multitude of different scenic variations, then that's cool. But it was just hard to grasp only harmony and color to what you're portraying. 

If you're anything like me, I too first was orchestrally inspired by film, but then I soon found the masters and was blown away by the level of musicality within their work. Want to know how to create divine melodies? Start with Mozart and Chopin. Want to better yourself with contrapuntal writing? We all revere Bach. Want to know the secrets of drama and storytelling within an orchestra? Beethoven, Sibelius, Shostakovich, etc. etc. If I were you, I'd take my passion and obvious talent with music further by really grasping what made the greats so great. Incorporate their technique into your writing. Hell, steal if you want. It'll all make you better, and you have a fine start where you are right now. 

You have a nice grasp of emotional harmonies... now let's take that a step further. If you add a keen sense of melody writing to your music, it'll only make it that much more wonderful. What about rhythm? Even if you're going for a lush cinematic sound, having parts of the orchestra hold a static but flavorful rhythm would do wonders. 

I'm excited to hear how you continue to improve, as I know your passion for music is unavoidable in getting better. 

P.S. If you ever come to Nashville, I know nothing about cars and probably get scammed when I need a fix. Help me please lol

On 3/7/2025 at 11:44 PM, Thatguy v2.0 said:

Hey man

This final (?) version is really cool. I wanted to share some takeaways that I hope you consider for FUTURE music, not this piece in particular. 

Your music has a lot of emotional depth and tone color, and your studies and/or admiration of film scoring shows in this work. You do a great job at providing the background to something happening on screen, or as part of the story. Is this correct? Sorry if I'm wrong. 

If that's the case, what does this go with, or what were you writing this for? I'm always curious of the story that film music chooses to be supplementary to. I only say this because your music completely ignores (imo) melody, which is what the listener of an abstract environment has to grasp onto. There are no lyrics, so I can't grasp the story. There's no melody, so I can't hear what you intend for me to follow. I only have lush orchestration with harmony and tonal colors to hold onto, and although great, it leaves me asking what you are trying to say. Like I said, if there's something specific this is about, or if you wrote in general to be applied to a multitude of different scenic variations, then that's cool. But it was just hard to grasp only harmony and color to what you're portraying. 

If you're anything like me, I too first was orchestrally inspired by film, but then I soon found the masters and was blown away by the level of musicality within their work. Want to know how to create divine melodies? Start with Mozart and Chopin. Want to better yourself with contrapuntal writing? We all revere Bach. Want to know the secrets of drama and storytelling within an orchestra? Beethoven, Sibelius, Shostakovich, etc. etc. If I were you, I'd take my passion and obvious talent with music further by really grasping what made the greats so great. Incorporate their technique into your writing. Hell, steal if you want. It'll all make you better, and you have a fine start where you are right now. 

You have a nice grasp of emotional harmonies... now let's take that a step further. If you add a keen sense of melody writing to your music, it'll only make it that much more wonderful. What about rhythm? Even if you're going for a lush cinematic sound, having parts of the orchestra hold a static but flavorful rhythm would do wonders. 

I'm excited to hear how you continue to improve, as I know your passion for music is unavoidable in getting better. 

P.S. If you ever come to Nashville, I know nothing about cars and probably get scammed when I need a fix. Help me please lol

 

Well, this was an arrangement of a pre-existing piece of music. It was used as a back track for the final scene in the video game Halo 3  the score was written by Martin O’Donnell and Michael Salvatori. 
 

there is a melody there, I believe that my balancing in terms of sound may be a bit off-kilter, here. In MS Studio I’m able to hear it clearly. So that may be the mistake. 
 

not to mention, I also firmly believe and have the humility to say that I probably went a bit over-board with counter melody and harmony voicing in this one 😅😅😅 Kind of drowns out the melody. When I get to my computer I can better explain it to you. 
 

But in essence, I do understand where you’re coming from, and would wholeheartedly agree with you that I need to work on focusing on the melodic lines more often. I find myself, often, even writing original scores, becoming a bit entranced by the harmonic structures of the chords in the progression, and I believe it’s because that’s what my ear takes the most pleasure in listening to. I get a little tunnel vision while structuring my chords sometimes and completely forget that the melody even exists 😅😅 

it’s something I’m already actively working on trying to improve upon. 
 

thank you for the extensive feedback! And I’ll let you know if my skills take me that direction at some point. Funny enough I used to work a job where I travelled the East Coast working at Lowe’s buildings overnight, doing Corporate Reset Construction (basically tearing down the giant shelving and displays then installing new ones and setting product/labels via Planogram) 

My last contract location with them was Bristol TN & VA. My home location is Florence SC.