"ALASKA" | V.I.P. Symphony Orchestra + Alternative Version

"ALASKA" | V.I.P. Symphony Orchestra

An Alaska Breeze ... is as cold as Ice

ALASKA.pdf

ALASKA.mid

Edited April 24Apr 24 by interlect

Hey Interlect! Interesting piece here; I will admit I have been seeing your increase in activity with a plethora of new submissions across the forum. However, I never see a score to look at with your music. I tried looking on your profile to see if you linked your scores elsewhere, but confess I did not find anything either.

Can I ask how you go about creating these works? Do you make scores? Is this generated media instead?

Edited April 11Apr 11 by MK_Piano

Hi MK

When you say is this "Generated-Media", i presume your asking is this : Artificial Intelligence ?

NO definitely not .

Im using an ALPHA/Pre-Release software keyboard that's currently unavailable.

The Developer/Programmer/Coders ,have been increasing the flexibility of this software over time.

This software does not have a Score-Creator, this Software is still in a release life cycle.

I admit that was my implication, yes. Also, appreciate the graphic, as that is information I already know. I will also confess that seeing all the photo and video graphics in quick succession with your posts does give the impression that you use gen-AI to create the videos, photos, or other graphics (on your profile for instance) in tandem with the music creation. Thus, it has also made me wonder if the music, usually electronic in sound, was also gen-AI. Apologies if I have casted an offense, as I do not mean to do so; this is more of a personal curiosity.

I don't mean to take this comment section away from your post, so I do not mind chatting in a direct message thread instead.

Edited April 11Apr 11 by MK_Piano

Regarding the "Classified-Information" of the software, i cant discuss that in detail,

except to say , that's its the FASTEST way of creating Any type of music,extremely easily.

The Video production/ photos / websites etc, are all using Basic software programs, that are decades old.

I cant read music, so as pretty as the score pdfs look...........their meaningless to me.

Launching a New software-Keyboard-Program,globally is no easy task, and will probably never happen.

Hi there,

There are programs that users on this forum that create scores; they are finale, dorico, sibeluis. And heck I will toss MuseScore into the mix.

On a serious note:

If you were to hand you score an orchestra, they will say no thank you. Step one is creating a polish craft.

"If you were to hand you score an orchestra, they will say no thank you. Step one is creating a polish craft."

Your Fixation for a perfect pdf Score....is not going to help you,

when submitting a composition to a TV Network, for an Intro-Outro Theme, or even a Film-Movie Main Title.

I doubt very much if any Executive producer, is going to request a Pdf Score as most people cant read Music.

Hes only going to be interested in how YOUR composition will FIT into HIS view

of how the music will enhance the complete Final Production.

https://www.screenskills.com/job-profiles/browse/unscripted-tv/editorial/executive-producer-unscripted-tv/

Edited Wednesday at 05:34 AM1 day by interlect

4 hours ago, interlect said:

"If you were to hand you score an orchestra, they will say no thank you. Step one is creating a polish craft."

Your Fixation for a perfect pdf Score....is not going to help you,

when submitting a composition to a TV Network, for an Intro-Outro Theme, or even a Film-Movie Main Title.

I doubt very much if any Executive producer, is going to request a Pdf Score as most people cant read Music.

Hes only going to be interested in how YOUR composition will FIT into HIS view

of how the music will enhance the complete Final Production.

https://www.screenskills.com/job-profiles/browse/unscripted-tv/editorial/executive-producer-unscripted-tv/

This is partial correct. However, in media works, there could be musicians involved. Ergo: why not make sure your demo and your score is ready?

That can be difficult if the Scoring Program cant "Keep-Up" with an EXTERNAL midi-Import file.

Having a Live Orchestra play your Compositions must very nice and fulfilling .

but then what ?........................

For producers like me , its a Dead-End............because it cant be taken any further.

Regarding Total-Costs to be paid out to Additional Musicians,

Budget restrictions may be a priority, when it comes to paying either:

1: One producer

2: A dozen musicians

and also the Re-Editing involved in the Final-Cut, has be taken into consideration

that would take more time to Re-Score.....than to post-edit via computer

Time is Money.................

Edited Wednesday at 10:12 AM1 day by interlect

Hi there,

The operative word was "could". Does not mean there will be. But could be. And that depends on the budget.

Even Indie studios can have live musicians (see silk song).

9 hours ago, interlect said:

That can be difficult if the Scoring Program cant "Keep-Up" with an EXTERNAL midi-Import file.

Having a Live Orchestra play your Compositions must very nice and fulfilling .

but then what ?........................

For producers like me , its a Dead-End............because it cant be taken any further.

Regarding Total-Costs to be paid out to Additional Musicians,

Budget restrictions may be a priority, when it comes to paying either:

1: One producer

2: A dozen musicians

and also the Re-Editing involved in the Final-Cut, has be taken into consideration

that would take more time to Re-Score.....than to post-edit via computer

Time is Money.................

[INFO DUMP]
Kvothe has merit in their critique.

There are plenty of truths about music and the most basic one is that this art is here for you to enjoy. Whether it is by music creation, performance or listening to a song, it is here for all humans to express and interact with.

This said, we live a society, and there are rules, expectations and trends for us to follow. In the music industry, this is very much true. Most of us here are professionals in the classical/ traditional aspect of music creation and performance, while some focus on more modern productions and performances on the popular stage. When it comes to the idea of having your work performed, the first and most basic universal is to have sheet music ready for musicians to perform.

Sure, a studio or individual can only use the MP3 render and call it a day, however, that may not work for all cases. You may hire a band or an orchestra to play the music, however, they too will expect some PDF or printed copy to use.

No matter the means, if you truly wish to participate in this field, you must inform yourself on the current practices. Why? Because there is an expectation and standard for music distribution. One aspect often overlooked is the side of copyright and trademark protection. If you have a work performed or licensed, you need to have this protection for widespread use. If you publish the score, it must also be protected.

Just because "you made it" doesn't always guarantee it is protected. To tie back in, this is the fundamental point of Kvothe's comments. You cannot just throw a score out into the community and expect everyone to respect it like they would a Mozart work. There are professional expectations in engraving, formatting and document layout. So much so, people may disregard your score if you misspelled an instrument part.

Sheet music distribution is under a lot of scrutiny and please do not take any comments about it personally. We are all spoiled by good sheet music and to be fair, we expect to see it... especially if we have to spend money for a copy.

The info dump that @MK_Piano wrote should help you, too.

Back in the golden days of hollywood, there was orchestra at hand to play the music for the films. Even before the advent of DAW's. Now, with DAW's what occurs: the composer sends the demo to studio for approval. Then his or her team prepares for the final cut (post production). Orchestration, copyist, ect. Now if there are synths, those are not part of the live recording. If there is one. Dune used synths and custom instruments. Scores today have become more hybrid @interlect. Learn to write well. Take feedback when it is provided. :)

Final note:

I agree with @MK_Piano on how scores should be presented. We are here to help you. Let us do that...please.

Thanx guyz

I Guess we must all do what feels right for us, even if that changes later on down the road,

So i do understand were your coming from , and i appreciate it .

Pocket-lint

Just to Conclude:

If paths cross at certain points in life, with executive producers in the future who are looking for:

A "SOUND" or MAIN-THEME , to fit there future Movie-Film, then they might request :

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"We want a Main-Theme for our new film that has the elements of :

Terminator2 + Indiana Jones + SuperMan + Jurassic Park + Judge Dread + Total Recall + RoboCop2

Can you do something "SIMILAR" like that for our Film ?... and what Budget Cost are we looking at for an Orchestra to perform this ?"

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i could reply : Yes this can be done with all the elements of the "SOUND" your requesting, ...............without The cost of an Orchestra.

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"Well thats Great......... But can you prove what yours saying - Actions speak louder that words ?"

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I would then provide them the links to the "Film-Scores RE-CREATIONS" page on my website as proof,

And also send them an additional | 3-Brand New-SIMILAR Main-Title compositions | for them to PREVIEW

Of course i would have firstly requested a copy of their Film's INTRO , to combine both VISUALS+AUDIO together

They would then either | Accept or Reject.

Edited 18 hours ago18 hr by interlect

17 hours ago, interlect said:

Just to Conclude:

If paths cross at certain points in life, with executive producers in the future who are looking for:

A "SOUND" or MAIN-THEME , to fit there future Movie-Film, then they might request :

---

"We want a Main-Theme for our new film that has the elements of :

Terminator2 + Indiana Jones + SuperMan + Jurassic Park + Judge Dread + Total Recall + RoboCop2

Can you do something "SIMILAR" like that for our Film ?... and what Budget Cost are we looking at for an Orchestra to perform this ?"

---

i could reply : Yes this can be done with all the elements of the "SOUND" your requesting, ...............without The cost of an Orchestra.

---

"Well thats Great......... But can you prove what yours saying - Actions speak louder that words ?"

---

I would then provide them the links to the "Film-Scores RE-CREATIONS" page on my website as proof,

And also send them an additional | 3-Brand New-SIMILAR Main-Title compositions | for them to PREVIEW

Of course i would have firstly requested a copy of their Film's INTRO , to combine both VISUALS+AUDIO together

They would then either | Accept or Reject.

[INFO DUMP pt.2]
Unfortunately this scenario is only hypothetical and will stay hypothetical.

To be as blunt as possible, there is flaw in the logic. So far, no one I have seen on the forums or any of your uploads have critiqued the raw music. It has been often aimed on the presentation of the music and in this case, about the sheet music.

Having music performed is a competitive goal. 100s-1000s of people submit works every year for performance opportunities, both in the educational and professional scene. Speaking from my own experience, all the opportunities I have applied for have asked for a Resume and portfolio.

Even if you have "the best work" from an subjective standpoint, they will go with the more experienced person in the professional scene and in the educational realm, they are more likely to give more chances to newer composers.

I have made over 20 original pieces that I personally say are perfect and several arrangements. Most of my pieces are for the orchestra, and in my notation engine... I have over 100 files worth of scores. Out of all my music, I've been given the chance to have only four of my pieces performed, three of which were by me. I cannot understate how hard it is to get music performed for large ensembles.

Yes, I know a lot and can guide a lot of musicians, but I am just another dude who does not have a big portfolio. I have to start small and work my way up.

If a producer asks if you have a portfolio, this indirectly will show if you have had music performed, NOT just if it was made. I can draw a stickman but I do not call myself Monet or Dali. Just because you made a song or two is great, yet, how much experience do you have hearing your music live? If you haven't... then how often are you participating in the music community? Have you worked with other conductors, professors, soloists and varying ensembles?

To tie back into the forum, we only want to see others succeed. This is why I share such detailed analysis of varying scores. It may be the one encounter that opens a new door in their thinking, or help provide an expectation of scores in the community. This is why I comment now. None of it is personal, at least coming from me. If you wish to talk about score engraving, then I'd be willing. It's a different ballgame compared to the music creation.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by MK_Piano