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Scherzo from a piano trio

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Hi, everyone. I was wondering if anyone would mind listening to this movement from a piano trio I'm currently writing. I'd appreciate any feedback, but in particular I'd like to know whether you feel that I've gone too far with the repeatedly evaded cadence at the end of each scherzo section. Thanks!

Piano trio - scherzo.pdf

Hi @Aiwendil !

I think this is a great and playful scherzo! I don't find the evaded cadences at the end of each section objectionable. The only thing that bothers me is that perhaps, the piece loses some momentum with so many repeats and pauses and stuff. Like, specifically the repeat in measure 127 could be jettisoned imo and the piece would be better for it. Perhaps you could get rid of some other repeats as well to improve the flow of the piece but that particular one made the piece really drag in my listening experience. Thanks for sharing and I'm stoked to hear the whole piano trio!

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2 hours ago, PeterthePapercomPoser said:

Hi @Aiwendil !

I think this is a great and playful scherzo! I don't find the evaded cadences at the end of each section objectionable. The only thing that bothers me is that perhaps, the piece loses some momentum with so many repeats and pauses and stuff. Like, specifically the repeat in measure 127 could be jettisoned imo and the piece would be better for it. Perhaps you could get rid of some other repeats as well to improve the flow of the piece but that particular one made the piece really drag in my listening experience. Thanks for sharing and I'm stoked to hear the whole piano trio!

Thanks! You have a good point about the repeats. All those repeats are standard for the scherzo form, but I think probably taking out the one at 127 would improve the piece. Maybe also the repeat of the second half of the scherzo.

Hello @Aiwendil

Review:

Let us talk about what a trio is. In a piano trio, you have two solo players and a piano player. When I listen to your piece, i did not hear two solo string players. I heard multiple. They sound different. Next thing you want to check is balance. I feel that FF is too loud a trio. The background elements will overpower the foreground. You do not want that. I would suggest remove the dynamics for now.

The thematic material the proceeds b.19 confuses me. what is the purpose for that section? So much empty in the solo strings. 10 measures of inactivity. I suggest removing those bars and start at 68. :) Then place the first ending repeat at b. 122. the second ending where femata is!

in other words, look where this no activity in the piece and re arrange it. :) You will be amazed what will happen. :)

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