Piano piece

I wrote this one week ago... I started with the idea of writing something less tonal, but it became something tonal after all. Does anyone know how I could get out of tonality? Sometimes I try, but it never works.

I have no idea how I should continue this... suggestions, hints?

Could this be the beginning of the piece or do you think there should be something before this?

24-03-07 piano.sib

24-03-07 piano.mid

Very short and sweet. The best way to get out of tonality in my opinion is to try to cycle through related keys and develop interesting ways in which to move between them (try some fully diminished seventh chords, augmented sixth, Neopolitan, etc.). This way you can have a less tonally based piece that still makes sense musically.

Or if you really want to go wild you can always try Schoenberg's twelve-tone scale system. That may be a little too much in a piece like this though, as the tonal feel is appropriate for the musical setting. I think this would fit more as a beginning to a piece. A nice introduction to establish very solid thematic ideas. Sounds awesome

Thanks :)

I don't just mean I'm stuck in one key (in some other pieces, my harmony is a lot more interesting I think)

I would like to go in the direction of Debussy, that is what I mean with my music being to tonal...

Schoenberg's twelve-tone scale system, what's that? Can give me an example or something?

How do you think this piece should go on? I really have no idea

I'm no Schoenberg expert (or fan, for what it's worth), but my understanding is that you use each note of the chromatic scale in whichever fashion you please. You use each note once in the aptly named "twelve-tone sequence".

Example (just pitches, not harmony):

F, F#, C, A#, D#, G#, A (Natural), E, C#, B, G (Natural), D (Natural)

You would use something like this as your melody and use less conventional harmonies and interesting rhythms to add your own style to it. This is a good way to practice moving away from tonal music if that's what you're trying to do.

But, if you want to go in the direction of Debussy, my advice would be to produce a nice, floating melody (try to move away from tonality with it), and put an interesting bass line in - maybe employ the rhythms of the arpeggiations in the treble you have in the beginning to the bass of this next section. Just a possibility...I'm no Debussy expert either lol, but that would be my advice.

Ok - what you want to do is slow everything down, and add a melody. The only major problem is that you have no tune.

This is really neat. But I have to ask: you hear this in 4/4?? It definitely sounds like 3/4.

Try deviating from the pattern you have going on (the quintuplets in the right with the aggressive left hand).

... and I'm also hoping that it's not completed? (Seeing as it just kinda stops in the middle of nowhere.)

I would do a B section for some reasons:

1. It could be in a distant tonality

2. The rythm is interesting but WILL get boring

3. Poor pianist's right hand!

4. You just repeated the A two times, right (second time the bass doubled)? So in a traditionnal "pop song" structure (which isn't bad!), it would be ideal to have something contrasting now.

Thanks!

It's in 3/4 of course, it was by mistake I made it 4/4.

It's definitly not completed, I always have problems with finishing pieces. There's going to come a B section. But I have no idea how.

So, now something slow and loving?

Depends on personal tastes... :thumbsup:

I think going to the relative major (E) would be great, melody (maybe ornamented) going on the right hand and the left hand playing slower arpeggios?

What's cool with computer-assisted music is that you can experiment! Take advantage of it :)

I think it would be a three part composition, A B A style. and maybe the melody should be played like christianc said, on the left hand.

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