Offer to all Composers here!

Hi Guys,

as i looked arround i saw that many of you didn't produce the Music by yourself.

Well here is opinion to get you Music played by a real good synthetic Symphony Orchestra!

IMP produce next to own Projects music from other composers. We sample you pieces exactly after you scoresheet (sibelius, finale or pdf-file).

For just 30Dollars per minute we garantee you an great work to show you fans, friends and even radiostations. Get a listen to your piece with a nearly realistic sound from libaries.

If anyone has an interest of getting music sampled, please mail me you suggestions or write an PM, hurry this cheap offer ends on 4th July!

mail: florian.linckus@impressive-music-production.de

(PS: i didn't exactly know in wich forum i can post it, but i think its right here!)

florian

PS: take a listen to

The Butterfly Waltz

www.impressive-music-production.de/butterflywaltz.mp3

Alex Theme Piano Solo

www.impressive-music-production.de/at-ps.mp3

Why does it end??? :blush:

Well, cause in begin of July we got 2 Filmprojects to score, so its no more time then left fore producing other music, we are just a team of two.

But maybe (if that model works) we expand with more members on IMP.

florian

Hey can you also make an English version of your site too?

Actually Chris, 30 $ is dead cheap I have to say. Because, you can't afford it, or you don't know how much time one must waste to make these mp3s sound good, you don't have really to come and post here (not to mention that YC members could maybe have a trio? or a quartet for rendering, which would be substantial smaller, no?):o

Florian one fast remark (two rather):

This is great offer indeed and the mp3s posted are fine examples!

But just make sure that the licenses from the libraries you use, allow you to do 3rd party work! especially paid work! Cause, actually, most companies I know (EW, Bela D. Media, and probably Kirk Hunter as well, actually Gary Garritan also, I believe) do not allow 3rd party rendering (eg, making realisations of other people's midi files.). There was a huge argument over at NSS and SOL forums not a while back. The user is only the person who bought the libraries and no one else, sadly. And while you may be using the library to make other peoples music, you cannot use it to make music from other peoples midis. VSL is a big exception to this!

since you are going to make money out of this (and best of luck to this actually as it's a great offereing and idea), and do translate your site in english please. :)

Well if you find a car for 30$ is it not expensive or simple dead cheap?

Please don't devalue what other people are doing, judging only from your side of things. :)

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Florian,

since you are using EW (as I am as well), you might as well read this: If you have RA..... - Soundsonline-Forums . The whole issue is there.

Of course, your offer is great, and when I didn't have samples, myself I did the same thing, I contacted someone who had and worked with him to produce my music (with his samples).

What you are doing is great and a great offer. Just pointing out that it's a grey area, that's all...

(EW is pretty dumb to that end, and generally most sample developers are dumb as well. :) But that's the way it is...)

Yes, but uf Mr. Linckus is not breaking even (Especially with the prices that you said), how on earth do you think that his offer is not cheap ? :) It's going to take quite a lot of break even for Florian, and for what he does (to which you may not know the effort and time and investment) it is cheap... EIther way cheaper than other people offering it...

You know what's dirt cheap? Doing it yourself...

Plus you have full control of what you want. :whistling:

High quality sample libraries are not cheap.

High quality sample libraries are not cheap.

amen, brotha

High quality sample libraries are not cheap.

If I may add:

It takes plenty of time to make good renderings... It's not easy.

You don't need high quality samples for renditions like these. I produce my own material... so yes, I understand the amount of effort to do renditions. But that doesn't mean it's better spending money to get others to do it for me. It takes plenty of time to make good renditions only because these guys work with notated sources.

Put it this way, $30 for 1 minute. $300 for 10 minutes. With $300 dollars you can get yourself a decent library of samples and do countless minutes of music. If you wish for better ones... 20 minutes is good enough to buy decent high quality samples.

I definately understand what you're saying and of course, I have my own VSTs to work with, personally.

But for someone starting out a computer that works with EW (for example) could be a problem... Even that. And the time to get an understand midi and some things could be precious as well...

Either way, I'm not endorsing anything at all, by all means! I understand what you're saying and have nothing to say against it. There are libraries at 200$! So one could buy one and work their way through that...

let's see... my symphony lasts 30 minutes, that would be nearly $1000 (US$ I presume, so converted into CDN).

For that price I can ALMOST, juuuust almost get an entire new computer... or I can upgrade the one I have for a LOT less, AND buy an entry level sample library...

As a matter of fact, that's exactly what I did... I upgraded my computer's CPU, and memory and HD, and bought full version GPO, and a 20" widescreen flat panel monitor, and it cost me a lot less than a thou. With, of course, the added benefit that I can make my own demos, as often as I need, with exactly the inflections, articulations, tempi, etc.. that I need.

I'm sorry, I don't mean to put down the offer of work being presented here, but it seems needlessly expensive. Besides, anyone on this forum who NEEDS to have a demo of their music of this quality, should be investing themselves in the equipment they need, not having someone else do it for them.

Well Qccow,

you won't put GPO and EW on one line, or?

GPO is just a scraggy sampled libarie and Mr. Garritan (i heard from other composers) won't take any critics against his genius libary,...

Sorry but GPO has just a good piano, the rest is unusefull.

EW has for example high quality Samples in High Definition 24bit.

BUT to put a PC up for Production you need more then a good CPU and RAM, you'll need a Soundcard, you'll need mixpults etc. And THATS why we make that offer, not every Composer is a Producer at all, i am both and i can deliver my Customers Music wich is pretty sampled and sampling Music IS very difficult and it needs a really long time to get after it. Wich articulations you need, wich you have to choose etc...

I really didn't (its not to be ment as arrogance) heard just one piece in that Board (except liverecordings ;) ) wich can take on my recordings. Well i work now over a year with EW and have experience in working every day with it. Scoring Films with it and even earning legal money with it by scoring films.

So i can't imagine that you get an nearly same result as i could do.

Sure 30Box isn't cheap, but my Customers for Filmmusik pay 300Box and more for 1min ;) so... its cheap ;) and it is for all the work an fair offer.

But my friends, Sampling is not all, it comes mixing, mastering etc on it to, and you will pay more than 30 Box a minute using a Musicstudio or getting you Music mastered,... think about it.

But well, i can get down to $20,00 a minute, but thats the absolut minimum!

you won't put GPO and EW on one line, or?

GPO is just a scraggy sampled libarie and Mr. Garritan (i heard from other composers) won't take any critics against his genius libary,...

Sorry but GPO has just a good piano, the rest is unusefull.

EW has for example high quality Samples in High Definition 24bit.

I'm sorry Florian but this is highly insulting (to Gary) and ignorant as well.

1. GPO is definately not unusable and for the money it is far better than silver ;)

2. EW has 24-bit samples only on platinum whose price is 1500$ (last time I checked that is... and without xp pro).

3. Gary is over at his forums listening to all people and making the best effort to anyone and for everyone.

Here is another composer who says different.

all libraries are useful and can do wonders, depending and who is using them. Having platinum or VSL by all means does not equal a good rendering! I've heard some amazing stuff made by GPO (and Finale! which is a great surprise as well).

Also, since you are puting your recordings above everyone else, would you like to visit my site and check MY recordings (not the live stuff, the sampled) and give an opinion maybe? site: ||Nikolas Sideris|| .

some example:

www.nikolas-sideris.com/stuff/thalecres1.mp3

www.nikolas-sideris.com/stuff/atotk.mp3

www.nikolas-sideris.com/stuff/tfe.mp3

I work over 2 years (haha, beat that! ;)) with EW and I am paid to work with my music! Same as you! ;)

You guys got me excited when you said "worked with EW", then I realized that you should've wrote... "been using EW". Oh well.

@ Florian, consider a workstation with the bare basics. Obviously for a full fledged production one would require audio interfaces, hardwares, microphones, mixers, and whatnots. However, for a basic production, one can get by with just a basic (even an onboard one). Keep in mind that most people's music here aren't for sale or meant for sending to record labels.

Your criticism to the GPO sample is very inappropriate. The GPO samples might not be up to par, but as nikolas stated, it does serve justice when it comes to price. Also, a good producer doesn't rely on high quality samples to do their work, that's... quite pathetic if you keep insisting what sample library is good and what isn't (from your comments in other threads). The GPO can be put to good use, you just don't have the patience to work with it.

And finally, learn to spell (and if possible proofread your grammar) for pete's sake, I actually thought "box" was another currency somewhere in Europe. (Unless there's something I'm missing).

Well Qccow,

you won't put GPO and EW on one line, or?

GPO is just a scraggy sampled libarie and Mr. Garritan (i heard from other composers) won't take any critics against his genius libary,...

Sorry but GPO has just a good piano, the rest is unusefull.

EW has for example high quality Samples in High Definition 24bit.

BUT to put a PC up for Production you need more then a good CPU and RAM, you'll need a Soundcard, you'll need mixpults etc. And THATS why we make that offer, not every Composer is a Producer at all, i am both and i can deliver my Customers Music wich is pretty sampled and sampling Music IS very difficult and it needs a really long time to get after it. Wich articulations you need, wich you have to choose etc...

I really didn't (its not to be ment as arrogance) heard just one piece in that Board (except liverecordings :) ) wich can take on my recordings. Well i work now over a year with EW and have experience in working every day with it. Scoring Films with it and even earning legal money with it by scoring films.

So i can't imagine that you get an nearly same result as i could do.

Sure 30Box isn't cheap, but my Customers for Filmmusik pay 300Box and more for 1min :D so... its cheap ;) and it is for all the work an fair offer.

But my friends, Sampling is not all, it comes mixing, mastering etc on it to, and you will pay more than 30 Box a minute using a Musicstudio or getting you Music mastered,... think about it.

But well, i can get down to $20,00 a minute, but thats the absolut minimum!

1. You appear to have completely misunderstood my post. If someone wants their end product to be the recording that comes from their computer, then GPO is probbaly not the way to go. I DID say, and you should carefully re-read my post before responding again, an "entry level sample library". GPO is a FINE entry level library. And despite your very unprofessional bashing of it and its creator, there are MANY composers making fine use of it and giving out samples and demos of excellent quality. I would also like to point out that there are film and television composers who are using GPO for their end product.

2. To refer to GPO the way you have in your post is MOST unprofessional and leaves a quite sour taste in my mouth. Simply from reading that comment I would find it very difficult to recommend your services to anyone. You apepar to have limited respect for others, which does not bode well for any sort of professional collaboration.

3. I will repeat what I wrote in my original post: anyone on this board who needs a demo of their work should invest in their OWN sample llibrary rather than paying someone to do it for them.

4. I'm certain your film music clients pay you $300/min of music. Are they bringing you someone else's music to render? Or are you writing the music for their production? If the former, then you are comparing apples and jumper cables. If the latter, then they are naive beyond belief.

5. And it's "bucks" not "box". I'd recommend using the term "dollars" instead. The former term is slang and sounds very unprofessional.

This is my first post here (If my memmory is ok)

I have no problems with the price for your work. It's ok if you want to be paid that amount per minute of rendered/mastered music.

But what I can't stand is your arrogance.

Are you Hans Zimmer? I think you aren't. He is a bit more humble.

Are you Bob Katz? You speak of mastering, but I'm sure you haven't a REAL mastering environment. Everyone can use Izotope Ozone VST or a bunch of Waves plugins to "master" his tracks with his pair of $500 nearfields, but REAL mastering isn't that. You need a controlled acoustic environment and GOOD monitors to do mastering, and years of experience

What's the problem with GPO? Gary is an excelent person and bussinesman, and GPO was the first sampled orchestra available for amateur musicians who can't afford VSL of EWQL. Gary also has developed top notch libraries as Garritan Orchestral Strings, and the solo Violin and Cello.

I have heard a tune by you, "Rise of Evil" which I really liked. I'm sure you're a good composer, but... in this life it's more important to be humble than to be a sueprcomposer (at least for me)

At northernsounds, and Vi-Control forums, there are tons of professional composers who make a living with music, but all of them are humble persons.

Take it easy man

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