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Which also raises the question: does the very idea of "musical innovation" have real significance in a world defined a pluralism of musical styles and languages? Many narratives of musical innovation imply not only a linear and one-sided view of history, but also that technique is somehow autonomous from the composers who utilized them. But especially with the rise of AI-generated content, I think it's the human element that remains most important. I tend to think that questions of technical innovation are secondary to the fact that music is essentially a form of communication and dialogue between PERSONS. That's where its real power lies--not as the craft of constructing progressively more advanced sonic artifacts.

I personally think in developing a personal language, composers need to strike a balance between indiscriminate absorption of everything they find, and limiting themselves to an overly narrow range of influences. I know the process varies from composer to composer, but I think it's important to find that balance. It's different today, where we have more control into what feeds our composer's mind--we kind of need to carve a personal ecosystem out of today's chaotic musical world. I've found it helpful to have a diverse cluster of a few core influences as a reference point (Sibelius, Messiaen, Britten), and then kind of expanding outside that. Polystylism is a fascinating approach, though it's not one that works well for my own process. If I composed in whatever style interested me at the moment, I don't think I would find the motivation to complete any full pieces. Again, it really depends on the composer, but as for me, my music is usually an expression of a philosophical vision, or a way of life. I can't really separate the styles and systems from the musical vision that bred them.

That’s great progress – keep it up!

Kyle , i think it depends on the judges " AGE-GROUP "............... so if there on the very edge of " Checking-Out " then they will "Expect" you to conform to "their " ideal, where as a Younger group of judges will want to be "Refreshed"

"Meandering Up and down".......................... that made me laugh out loud , or should i say LOL ?

LoL .. I really don't know and can't say. The judges at these things could be much stricter than our community here on Young Composers. Your rhythms - you have a characteristic way of meandering up and down and you can't resist the inclusion of occasional triplets LoL

With that being said, do you think I might have a shot at being the chosen work? 😅 I've only ever submitted work to 2 other calls before. This will make 4 now, once I submit this, after its completion... I'd also like to ask; what about my work makes it recognizable as "oh, yeah that's UncleRed's work, right there"? lol

The problem i have with that Composition-Video above is : .............................. i cant SEE or HEAR the CHORUS I cant detect where it "starts and where it ends" ............. i suspect the "Man on the street" wouldn't know either . Time is money.. so these HUGE gaps in the composition , make absolutely no sense whatsoever . just my opinion you don't have to agree with it.

Kyle, i think you've stepped out of your "Comfort-Zone" to explore the rest of the orchestra I see images with this track, that go further than the one "Theme-Category" personally i have to have a picture or film, in front of me , before i can start anything. The orchestra has a lot of different players, playing different instruments. Example : Breakfast - Lunch - Dinner - | " what do want today for your : Breakfast - Lunch - Dinner " ? chips-chips-chips .........................i want the orchestra to play | violins-violins-violins so the rest of the orchestra that doesn't play violins are .......REDUNDANT .......There just sitting there doing Nothing. so its so refreshing to hear you use The rest of the orchestra...... be nice to NAME the instruments your using in your productions.

My composition tutor has advised me that Eb minor is not a problem for professional or semi-professional orchestras. So I don't think you need to worry about the key.

Brilliant orchestration Luis! I especially like the combination of brass with harp glissandi on the final chord. (Might steal that idea myself!) I don't remember seeing all four horns combined onto one staff before. Is that common practice?

Hi @UncleRed99 ! I think it's a very nice and sonically pleasing work! The inclusion of Taps in the piece (albeit with liberal artistic license) enriches the message of the piece being a dedication to those who died on D-Day (probably the most gruesome and intense engagement in WWII). I think I could compare you to Brahms in a way, because Brahms in his harmonic structuring of his pieces was so dependent on 3rds and 6ths (something he also had in common with Percy Grainger). Your music on the other hand is very suspension-heavy, constantly creating those major and minor 2nds that rub and resolve pleasantly to major or minor sonorities. I think you should be weary of this however, since this style of writing for brass is very common in the DCI (Drum Corps International) universe and doesn't win you points for originality, creativity or style. Although I would argue that you do have a certain personal style that is recognizable. Thanks for sharing!

Possibly, yes. :) @interlect Ava Part writing does have melody and harmony. Arvo understanding of counterpoint is amazing.

Personally , if i cant DETECT the Melody & chords, then im totally lost......... most classical music appears to be devoid of both. except the Famous well known trax you hear on the radio, they do have both. AMAZING GRACE piano and orchestra.mp3

I was thinking of pieces like this one by Pärt

✈️🎬★ 𝗗𝗘𝗦𝗧𝗜𝗡𝗔𝗧𝗜𝗢𝗡 𝗕𝗘𝗥𝗠𝗨𝗗𝗔™ | 𝗠𝗮𝗶𝗻 𝗧𝗶𝘁𝗹𝗲 𝗧𝗵𝗲𝗺𝗲© : 𝗢𝗽𝗲𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗖𝗹𝗼𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗖𝗿𝗲𝗱𝗶𝘁𝘀 DESTINATION BERMUDA 2.mid DB.pdf

. with me changes, I usually have those as suggestions the ensembles I have been with useing mallet instruments we had mallet bags which allowed us to drop stuff in and quickly pull stuff out With the octaves, I think that’s just purely for texture reasons sometimes I’ll have a single player use an octave grip with runs sometimes

Many thanks for those tips Mark. I will move the oboe part in Bar 6 to the clarinet. In Bar 16 I've already eliminated the oboe and replaced with flute (see amended version directly above your post). Alex.

Modest Mussorgsky piano suite "Pictures at the exhibition" certainly have been written for the orchestra countless times. Schubert arranged one of lieder into piano trio. Debussy orchestrated one his works. So, the answer is ...yes! In fact, that would be fun challenge for this forum: arrange a piano for certain ensemble. @Lithl That is one method. The other method is the old fashion way: write everything out. :)

Hi @Luis Hernández! In principle, I think you could adapt any piano work for an orchestra using a DAW. That said, there are certainly some that would be incredibly difficult, take Conlon Nancarrow’s Study No. 40a, for instance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXd-I_7XBoY That one might be almost impossible, don't you think? (Haha) Ultimately, piano works originally composed for player pianos might not be well-suited for orchestral adaptation. The same likely applies to piano pieces with an extremely sparse number of notes. Even if it were possible, the real question is whether the orchestration adds any value, whether it actually "works" or not. By the way, your arrangement of Schoenberg’s Six Little Pieces for Piano, Op. 19 was really good! I didn't comment on the specific topic because I don't feel qualified to offer advice on orchestration. However, I just wanted to let you know how much I enjoyed it! Best, Lithl.

As a listener ... just a fun piece! Mark

A very effective and engaging orchestration ... it possesses a well rounded tonal balance with interesting color. Nice work. Mark

Alex, Please aware that in measure 6 you have a slur in pp in the Oboe going to the B - Bb the Oboe's lowest note. Not a problem usually, however, at that dynamic level it might not work. At measure 16 you have the Oboe at the high F and G.... I don't see the benefit here at all. Not really recommended unless it is an avant garde work. In both cases the Oboist will not be happy with the orchestration. Mark

A question Do you think that any piano piece, for example, could be adapted for an orchestral version? Or perhaps there are certain formats or styles that wouldn’t work well in this context? Please feel free to give examples Best regards