Arvo Part

I would recomend Fratres for Violin and Paino

and Spiegel Im Spiegel also for violin and paino.

Does any one else have thoughts on his pieces?

I found this cool site that explains his composition techniques and a few techniques of other comperers Tintinnabuli

I personally believe Part is a genius.

One of my favorite composers, his music just touches my "soul" eheh

Frates,spiegel im spiegel, fur alina, Tabula Rasa, cantus in the memory of Benjamin Britten, Festina Lente, Summa, Silouans song, orient and ocident, lamentate, Miserere....etc

So many good stuff, like virtualshock i think he is a genius, and it's good to see him get the recognition he deserves in his lifetime.

I recoment to see the dvd 24 preludes for a fugue. He is such an humble man!

I would recomend Fratres for Violin and Paino

and Spiegel Im Spiegel also for violin and paino.

Does any one else have thoughts on his pieces?

Hi Virtualshock,

Thanks for recommending this unusual music :)

It's actually quite meditative, almost like something from the medieval times... I even trace some Indian music somehow. The music moves ahead while a pedal tone is sounding at the bottom of this almost ritual of soft string music. The way the musicians beat the rythm on the celli is a new trick - definitely a new experience that I recommend for other listeners.

I will have to listen several times before I get used to it. I remember in the 80s when I first heard 5 pieces for orchestra by Arnold Sch

I found this cool site that explains his composition techniques and a few techniques of other comperers Tintinnabuli

I personally believe Part is a genius.

I personally believe P

I love P

I actually disagree gianluca , he found his own style, and that is something every composer strives to achieve imo. (or at least should)

I personally believe P

First of all i'll tell you how i met his music. i've been wandering in oslo, jobless, happy, alone and turned out to find myself in youth center, and there played music. i couldn't leave untill it stopped, so i sat down on the stool and listned.i didn't dear to ask what was playing...the next or some other day i went to music shop saw an light blue cover album, read fur alina and arvo part on the cover. i put it on and that was it - spiegel im spiegel. so, it's the composition that changed my life. i think it's the most truly beautiful music i ever heard.though i very seldomly, always never,like to talk of ''the most'' stuff. from that encounter, i understood that true musical experience must be like that, out of nowhere, having no idea what to expect. this may happen very rare in a man's life time. it may never happen. so my question - do you think music can be the source of truth? i, myself, listen very little to music. last time i heard spiegel im spiegel was maybe half of a year back. i think it's too strong to listen it too often.

every time i take a chance to do it, i am left with question-should i do something to stay faithful and true to this music?and-is there anything one can do?and, if not, then i think that i miss the music.that i, somehow, betray it.there are some of my friends who think that's spiegel im spiegel is just beautiful music, a relaxation procedure...i conclude that they do not understand it.to me arvo part's music is quite paradoxical.he's deeply religious composer. yet, his "fratres" to me is a deeply erotic music. passionate. well, of course, eros means getting to know, to understand, so maybe i'm not too perverse about thinking it erotic.

i thought is there any music that thinks 'xenia' - love for strangers. and, yes, i think fratres does that as well, because of its nakedness,passion and eros - going beyond the realm of known. so, to summarize, i think arvo part is the composer of love, his music thinks love. that's where it fails/supercedes "aesthetics". in this case truths of particular music somehow says the truths destined for love.

I first heard his music in a ballet by Christopher Wheeldon, which I believe is also called Spiegel im Spiegel.

First of all i'll tell you how i met his music. i've been wandering in oslo, jobless, happy, alone and turned out to find myself in youth center, and there played music. i couldn't leave untill it stopped, so i sat down on the stool and listned.i didn't dear to ask what was playing...the next or some other day i went to music shop saw an light blue cover album, read fur alina and arvo part on the cover. i put it on and that was it - spiegel im spiegel. so, it's the composition that changed my life. i think it's the most truly beautiful music i ever heard.though i very seldomly, always never,like to talk of ''the most'' stuff. from that encounter, i understood that true musical experience must be like that, out of nowhere, having no idea what to expect. this may happen very rare in a man's life time. it may never happen. so my question - do you think music can be the source of truth? i, myself, listen very little to music. last time i heard spiegel im spiegel was maybe half of a year back. i think it's too strong to listen it too often.

every time i take a chance to do it, i am left with question-should i do something to stay faithful and true to this music?and-is there anything one can do?and, if not, then i think that i miss the music.that i, somehow, betray it.there are some of my friends who think that's spiegel im spiegel is just beautiful music, a relaxation procedure...i conclude that they do not understand it.to me arvo part's music is quite paradoxical.he's deeply religious composer. yet, his "fratres" to me is a deeply erotic music. passionate. well, of course, eros means getting to know, to understand, so maybe i'm not too perverse about thinking it erotic.

i thought is there any music that thinks 'xenia' - love for strangers. and, yes, i think fratres does that as well, because of its nakedness,passion and eros - going beyond the realm of known. so, to summarize, i think arvo part is the composer of love, his music thinks love. that's where it fails/supercedes "aesthetics". in this case truths of particular music somehow says the truths destined for love.

Interesting thoughts,

its cool that spiegel im spiegel has such an effect on you,

its such a tranquill calm peice sometimes I feel like I cant touch it.....

its such a tranquill calm peice sometimes I feel like I cant touch it.....

you know, i and my friend used to have some king of a joke, regarding arts,

we'd say that music is the greatest and most transcendental of them all, because you can't piss on music :)

you can on paintings, books, but not on sound :)

you know, i and my friend used to have some king of a joke, regarding arts,

we'd say that music is the greatest and most transcendental of them all, because you can't piss on music :eyebrow:

you can on paintings, books, but not on sound :)

:P,

thats not entirely what I meant but oh well........

:toothygrin:

i guess, just taking an extra angle ;)

to me it comes like this - i can feel love and gentleness to anything around me at the time of listening to spiegel - when i listened to it during the breaks at my job, i would just watch this christmas tree outside the workshop and it would seem that the whole beauty of this fragile life just is in there, in this tree.

and then BUMMER you are back to work......

right?:)

...and then i would make another roll tube tobacco and take a listen to white stripes 'blue orchid' just to know that fragile moments is meant to be 'moments' , and other things in life need your muscle and, well, mechanics :)

he he,

Blue Orchid, pretty cool guitar riff

:cool:

especially when you play it 4 a.m. 500+ watts in a block house, and all your neighbours may listen to it, ah, it feels good to do a good thing

Have you made a decision yet about getting the Paul Hillier Arvo P

Well I plan to get the book when I get some more money!

thanks for the excerpts

here is a clip of 24 preludes to a fugue

YouTube - Arvo P

Thanks for that clip! Hadn't thought to look for it on YouTube. Yeah

Thanks for that clip! Hadn't thought to look for it on YouTube. Yeah – motorbikes?

I hvae to say that I don't really enjoy his music. I have actualyl 4-5 CDs and an oxford publication with all details about his techniques. So I did research on him.

But I just can't stand (personal opinion, nothing to do with him, or his choices, right), this eternal calm setting, the choirs, the everlasting F maj through the tintinabily, and the pseudo-religious settings (at least this is what it reminds me).

Again this is personal, I'm not discrediting nor the composer, or his works, or the people who enjoy his music.

I hvae to say that I don't really enjoy his music. I have actualyl 4-5 CDs and an oxford publication with all details about his techniques. So I did research on him.

But I just can't stand (personal opinion, nothing to do with him, or his choices, right), this eternal calm setting, the choirs, the everlasting F maj through the tintinabily, and the pseudo-religious settings (at least this is what it reminds me).

Again this is personal, I'm not discrediting nor the composer, or his works, or the people who enjoy his music.

Funny, I feel sort of the same about P

Funny, I feel sort of the same about P