Guest DOFTS Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Finally! I love pop music. Not all, but I like them. I have no idea why people can despise them so much. Yeah, it uses the same chord progression, it uses the same instruments, same form etc. etc. I like Robbie Williams, his older stuff though. YouTube - Robbie Williams - Feel YouTube - Robbie Williams - Angels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevemc90 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 This is just to prove not all "pop musicians" classical ventures are scraggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewSchwartz Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Is this about pop music or "popular" (aka non-art) music? o.O I'm guessing the latter, but the title is misleading. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana69 Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Is this about pop music or "popular" (aka non-art) music? o.OI'm guessing the latter, but the title is misleading. :/ Hard to say. DOFTS posted Beirut which is neither Pop nor "popular". :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewSchwartz Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Hard to say. DOFTS posted Beirut which is neither Pop nor "popular". :thumbsup: Popular music doesn't have to be popular to be popular. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DOFTS Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Hard to say. DOFTS posted Beirut which is neither Pop nor "popular". :thumbsup: Only to some people :). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSC Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 I think the "pop" label is sort of retarded but it's quickly understood what it's meant when we're comparing it to, say, classical music. Though, I would consider pop music "art" as well. So the distinction isn't that great. I guess the problem is when people themselves don't write pop/rock/ETC music and are only in the classical field. There's just a different type of art to it that becomes evident if you're writing them songs. Though, if you're into modern music it's a little hard not to get involved with certain "pop" figures, like Zappa or Hendrix. It's all modern music, really. I still think that composers should be able to rock out or jam like the best of them, at least in writing if not with actual instruments. It's a good experience. So, um. I read that radiohead's ok computer had some inspiration on Penderecki XD Weird. Plus in kid A there's something to do with the Tristan chord. ... Weird. Honestly radiohead doesn't do much for me though I appreciate the ideas. I'm much rather for the blur (on the self-titled album or 13)'s experiments and brit-pop mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinjessome Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I think the "pop" label is sort of retarded but it's quickly understood what it's meant when we're comparing it to, say, classical music. A good point... My perspective: There's BIG genres and little genres: "classical" "jazz" "pop" "other" are BIG genres. Generally, I can lump anything into one of these. I'm not big on labels, and don't tend to divide music along these lines... "pop" is just a verbal designation to differentiate all the pop-type musics from the classical or jazz. "Pop" includes, but is not limited to: rock, folk, indie, rap, pop, emo, drum n bass.... Music has fragmented so severely I find it exhausting to try and pigeonhole and define genres anymore... To me, there's only music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
920bpm Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Oh man I haven't heard the original, but this is pretty amazing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewSchwartz Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I'm pretty sure most people understand rock, folk, indie, and rap as "popular music", not "pop music". :) Pop music - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Popular music - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Of which, "popular" relates to the music's branching out from the fine arts, and it's traditionally performed for all classes of people, rather than just the upper-class elite that classical has historically catered to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinjessome Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Po-tay-toe, po-tah-toe. To-may-toe, to-mah-toe... *calls the whole thing off* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keerakh Kal Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Gaslighting Abbie Slang of Ages Glamour Profession King of the World Bodhisattva -All songs by the greatest band EVER. ~Kal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DOFTS Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I only listen to Rock -Grudge-Emo-Indie -Post- Hardcore- PreScreamo -Jazz- hip hop. If it isn't that genre, it's a no go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewSchwartz Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 ^ You should try out grunge some time. ^_^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almacg Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 YouTube - Gipsy Kings - Bamboleo (Videoclip) YouTube - Staind - It's Been Awhile YouTube - Metallica - No Leaf Clover (Can't believe I'm the first to post a Metallica video!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewSchwartz Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I lurve Muse. I used to be absolutely obsessed with them (and I even wrote extensively on Matt's compositional techniques). >_< Space Dementia is epic. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinjessome Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Rufus Wainwright: YouTube - Rufus Wainwright - Going to a town (official) Nick Cave: YouTube - Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Dig, Lazarus, Dig!!! YouTube - Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Into My Arms Ron Sexsmith: YouTube - Ron Sexsmith - Secret Heart YouTube - Ron Sexsmith - Right About Now Nick Drake: YouTube - Nick Drake - Place to be YouTube - Nick Drake - 'Cello Song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevemc90 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Rufus is the loving man, a great composer (what's going on with his NYMet opera?)...and of course, Nick Drake too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinjessome Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Rufus is the loving man, a great composer (what's going on with his NYMet opera?). *shrug* I dunno...last year he did that MAJOR July Garland production and toured "Release The Stars"... I suspect the Opera is going full tilt - he's a super busy and guy, eh! But, yeah...Rufus is fantastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevemc90 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 i actually read a few months back an article that said he, of all the commissions, had made the most progress...i remember it saying something like he was being influenced by Janacek too (haven't heard his operas yet), interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianluca Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Even though some of you know my stance on this type of music, listening to some of the songs linked in this thread I can't help feeling the urge to restate it. The jaw-dropping simplemindedness and lack of artistic merit of pop music keeps astonishing me. Unbelievable how one-dimensional these songs sound and how limited and impoverished they are rhythmically, melodically, harmonically and structurally. This music is easy listening, easy watching, easy thinking. I've just listened to quite a number of songs linked here and seldom have I heard so many clich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest QcCowboy Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Since this thread isn't about Gianluca's music preferences, I recommend that participants simply ignore his inflammatory comments. If this turns into another flame war, this thread will also be closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almacg Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 edit: Just read the above post, so decided to remove comments. Gianluca there must be some popular music that you like!? Joe Jackson anyone? YouTube - Joe Jackson - You Can't Get What You Want (Till You Know What You Want): Live YouTube - Joe Jackson Is She Really Going Out With Him? YouTube - Joe Jackson - It's Different For Girls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinjessome Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Well spoken QCC... Gianluca's on my lengthy list of people to be promptly ignored! Rolling right along: Bj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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