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My opinion:

  1. A work has to speak for itself, and popularity doesn't really have much to do with it. It shows that the composer struck a chord, so to speak, with his/her audience, but there are some great composers out there who died unacclaimed, like Bach, and Louise Ferranc (who no one's ever heard of). Popular music is popular for a reason, but I believe that in the end, the music has to be judged in and of itself.
  2. @Chemical: Be sure to tell us how this works out. I'm trying to figure out what exactly you want to convey with the sudden shift from major to minor. Is there a reason other than "It sounds cool"? If not, I believe that "it sounds cool" as a reason to do something is perfectly valid.
  3. All y'all are getting EPICALLY off-topic. A debate like this can and indeed has gone on for several pages. It needs to be split, or at least another topic must be formed to contain it.

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OP, try it and post your results. That would make this entire discussion unnecessary. (Undoubtedly, someone could use the technique to good effect, but the question is, is it really worth it?)

Well yeah, and this topic is really silly.

Thank you.

... Aren't there more than one history?

Are you into New Historicism?

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My opinion:
  1. A work has to speak for itself, and popularity doesn't really have much to do with it. It shows that the composer struck a chord, so to speak, with his/her audience, but there are some great composers out there who died unacclaimed, like Bach, and Louise Ferranc (who no one's ever heard of). Popular music is popular for a reason, but I believe that in the end, the music has to be judged in and of itself.
  2. @Chemical: Be sure to tell us how this works out. I'm trying to figure out what exactly you want to convey with the sudden shift from major to minor. Is there a reason other than "It sounds cool"? If not, I believe that "it sounds cool" as a reason to do something is perfectly valid.
  3. All y'all are getting EPICALLY off-topic. A debate like this can and indeed has gone on for several pages. It needs to be split, or at least another topic must be formed to contain it.

Excellent post.

Enigmus, a problem with your last post is that you listed only three types of criteria for success. Each persons view of success is a blend of many different personal thoughts and goals. Therefore, no universal standard can be set for 'successful'. If making money is my definition of success, then I must think that Lady Gaga is successful, even if as an artist she lacks any sort of.....anything. Financially successful, yes. Artistically...not so much.

I bring it back to sum1's first point - the music has to be judge in and of itself.

I have to edit this post, and state that I actually do think Lady Gaga has some artistic merit. My apologies :)

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Soooo, to bring this back on topic a bit. I noticed "Anakin's Theme" from Star Wars I does this at the end - minor key but cadences on a major chord. Creates a spooky/ambiguous kind of feeling, hinting at the future Vader.

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Soooo, to bring this back on topic a bit. I noticed "Anakin's Theme" from Star Wars I does this at the end - minor key but cadences on a major chord. Creates a spooky/ambiguous kind of feeling, hinting at the future Vader.

I think you mean major key but ends on a minor chord? Either that or I guess you find major chords spooky and/or ambiguous?

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