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No, notating something like Am7/C is 'incorrect' notation. The note after the slash may only be a non-chord note. Like Am7/F or something.

The slash used in secondary chords is V/V used for a II chord where if functions as the V on V. So In C, the Dm7 chord becomes a D7 chord. The D7 on G is a V-I cadence on G. But in this case we have D7-G7-Cmaj7. Thats V/V-V-I.

Every chord can have it's secondary dominant.

In guitar tabs do you mean a slide from one chord to another?

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No, notating something like Am7/C is 'incorrect' notation. The note after the slash may only be a non-chord note. Like Am7/F or something.

Really? It's not something I'd use, and it may not be correct for analysis, but I live with a well-educated rock/jazz guitarist who uses this kind of notation all the time when writing a guitar lead-sheet. It's pretty standard notation. It just means he plays an Am7 chord with a C in the bass. Otherwise he'd play it in root position, most likely.

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Well, a lot of different ways to notate things are used in jazz. Like plus and minus signs for major and minor chords and several other different things. To me, and to other people, a chord notated with a slash implies a hybrid chord or a chord over a bass pedal note. Using it to notate inversions to me is not very preferable. I can't really say it's wrong so maybe I shouldn't have used the word. (I just reread and saw I actually didn't)

So yeah, they are used for notating inversions. I rather see '1st inv' and '2nd inv' used.

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like Am7/C is 'incorrect' notation. The note after the slash may only be a non-chord note. Like Am7/F or something.

Yea i see this alot in Jazz it non-harmonic tones or alter notes in the bass

so its like inversions i guess

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Originally posted by J. Lee Graham@Aug 25 2005, 12:54 PM

Really?

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The Tricky part is what MODE to play with what harmonic or non-harmonic tone or altered tone in the bass

What mode from telling from the bass note to play? thats the hard part

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You also see plus and minus as substitutes for sharp and flat. I have seen plusses used for augmented but minus for diminished? Never. The stupid thing is, usually minus is only used for minor. So then these confused people show up and use plus for major.

Walters, you mean what notes to play. Playing a mode doesn't make sence. You play notes (or scales) and those make modes happen automaticly.

And hybrid chords don't make it harder per se. And all the notes of all the chords on a lead sheet have a harmonic function because only the harmony is described.

As a jazz solist you want to play a solo that superimposes the chords or changes in the harmony. You you will play the scale that chord belongs to or an arpeggio with all or most of the notes of that chord.

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You also see plus and minus as substitutes for sharp and flat. I have seen plusses used for augmented but minus for diminished? Never.

I must disagree here. The official notation AFAIK is: "+" or "aug" for augmented chords like : F+7 or Faug7 , "dim" or "o" for diminished chords like Fo or Fdim , "-" or m for minor chords, like: F-7 or Fm7, delta sign or "maj" for sharp 7th like: Fmaj7 means f a c e, but Fm maj7 (uppercase) means f as c e (and so on)

As for the "Extensions" notation: it is not only correct AFAIK, but desirable, mainly for pianists and guitarists, or possibly other musicians dealing with chords. The rest sees this a little tricky, but they should cope with it as well. Basicly it means of course: play some chord PLUS a different note in the bassline. If there is something like this: A7/F7 it means, that we need to play at least f eb a c# g and so on.

I am fairly certain about that.

Yeonil

and it doesn't have to be a non-chord note. It's the easiest notation for bass.

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Do you realise someone else just said he thinks F-7 would mean a diminished chord since + means augmented?

Also A7/F7 would be a polychord. Two chords stacked on top of each other.

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