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Minor Chromatic Mediants

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Please recommend me some music from the 19th or early 20th century that uses chromatic mediants in a minor key. I particularly like i-vi-i progression (Amin - Fmin - Amin in the key of A minor), like the Imperial March from Star Wars. Also what's the earliest example of Composers using a major or minor triad built on the note a tritone away from the tonic?

I can't recall an specific passage of a work with it but I'm sure you can find them in Grieg music...

 

btw "mediant" is the name of a degree of your scale, not of an interval, is a very common mistake, not any 3rd you see is a "mediant",

i.e. in C major your "mediant" will be the chord of E minor, nothing more, not the A mediant of F major, B mediant of G major etc...

is like "dominant" is also a degree name, your dominant is G major chord, not any 5th you can find.

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The term mediant can also refer to the relationship between two triads, not just the III (or iii) chord of whatever key you're in. For example a diatonic mediant relationship exists between V and viio, and a chromatic mediant relationship exists between V and (b)VII. But I'm talking about chords that have a chromatic mediant relationship with the tonic of a minor key, specifically when the III and VI chords in a minor key have their thirds lowered to make them minor. Thanks for replying though.  

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And yeah I know, not just any chord a perfect fifth above another chord is it's dominant. It has to be a major triad or Dominant 7th chord in order to function as one.

Anyone else want to join my movement to clean-up and simplify music theory terminology?  As with latin names for species… many common names in many languages, but one definitive, clear-cut way to say it that is common for all folks of all language backgrounds as well.  Anyone else?  I'm sure it will take a fat, well-paid committee about 50 years to work out how to do it, and I graciously volunteer myself for the salary.  I mean the job.  (:

Shosty Sym. 11 ? too new right ? you want it older examples... let me keep thinking...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVPKpKrR8YE

7:03

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Thanks, that was a good example. I guess this is something composers didn't start doing until the last 100 years or so.

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A chromatic mediant is formed upon III of scale. Diatonically, as SYS, this usually is mediant. For example: in C major the III would be E minor.  A chromatic mediant would is bIII, Eb Major, or E major. Same goes to IV: A minor. That could be change to Ab major or A major.

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