Trouble With Image

How can I ask a question in a simpler way if can't paste a image?

Can anyone tell me ?

Thanks

Does the image exist on the internet? If so:

I want to paste some passages of the score from the Rite of Spring to clarify some notation information.

I extract the passage from the score, paste in the Word then paste it here but when I go to send the post I get a message that goes 

rather like this way " You can't post images in this comunity ".

I'm sure it has a simple solution - which I can't figure out - so, it's a little anoying.

Thanks

I'm sure there is a way...though I wouldn't know. I have a score to the Rite, so if you need help you can post bar numbers or something.

Thank you, danishali903

My first question is about the beginning of " The naming and honoring the chosen one " number 104, Vivo,

where there are two eighth notes tied with the indication for 144.

What this means? Would it not be better to write one half note instead of those two?

My second question is at number 121 " Evocation of the ancestors ":

Why a eight note = half note?

Few bars latter there are a bar 2/2 and another 3/2. It seems to me that if was written 2/4 and 3/4 respectively the result would be the same. It feels more like a visual problem then a rhytmic one.

And finally at number 149  : sixteenth note = sixteenth note. 

Could it be out and no difference would occur ?

For me what this information says is something that is already been doing since number 142.

Thanks again.

Um abraço

Edited March 2, 201511 yr by Denatura Sonorum

Thank you, danishali903

 

My first question is about the beginning of " The naming and honoring the chosen one " number 104, Vivo,

where there are two eighth notes tied with the indication for 144.

What this means? Would it not be better to write one half note instead of those two?

My second question is at number 121 " Evocation of the ancestors ":

Why a eight note = half note?

Few bars latter there are a bar 2/2 and another 3/2. It seems to me that if was written 2/4 and 3/4 respectively the result would be the same. It feels more like a visual problem then a rhytmic one.

And finally at number 149  : sixteenth note = sixteenth note. 

Could it be out and no difference would occur ?

For me what this information says is something that is already been doing since number 142.

 

Thanks again.

 

Um abraço

All very good questions! Let me preface by saying that the Rite of Spring is very poly-rhythmically complicated score, so most of the markings that Stravinsky put in were to remind the conductor/players the tempo, even though they seem redundant.

1. Reh. 104 = I see that the tempo is two 8th notes tied = 144. This practically means a quarter note (NOT half note)=144 for tempo purposes. I think he did that since the time signature is 5/8 (and 9/8 and 7/8) later on, so we're dealing with a lot of 8th notes. If he did write the tempo in terms of just one eighth note, the tempo would probably be like "eighth note is equal to 288) For me, its just easier to think of that whole passage in quarter note terms than eighth note terms...but others may feel differently.

2. Reh. 121= What I see is 8th note = quarter note (not half note).This is Stravinsky just reminding us that the tempo is the same from the previous section even though we're now dealing with a different time signature. So the previous section's tempo was "two 8th note slurred = 144"....which translates into one eight note = 288. So in this new section the quarter note should equal 288. Most conductors would beat this section in half time, so I think a more practical marking should "half note = 144". Throughout this section the quarter note in 2/2, 3/2, 3/4, 2/4 is the same. It looks a little confusing, but it makes more sense when playing/conducting it.

3. You're absolutely right about reh. 149. Stravinsky's just reminding us that the tempo is same, even though the time signature has changed from 3/16 to 3/8. Meaning the 16th note values will remain the same between the two different time signatures. It's funny because at the beginning of the sacrificial dance (reh. 142) the marking is "eighth note =126", so he could've just put down Tempo 1 or something, but I think he just put down a "reminder" for the players/conductor

Thank you, very much danishali903.

By the way, my mistake, wherever you've read half note I meant quarter note, like you said.

About the number 104 I understood your answer, but when we come across a bar like 5/8 or 3/8,for example, the information with two tied 8th notes won't help much 

because we won't have a complete set of quarter notes within the bar, differently is in a bar 4/8 where we will have two quarter notes within the bar. It would be better write 8th = 288, even been 

a way too fast pulse we could count them in groups of 3,4,5 and there will be no bars we couldn't have a complete set of 8th notes.