Lilapsophilia

I have already posted one of the songs that are included in this project in another thread but I decided to put some more of them into one thread.

Let me explain about this project a little more. This is something I have done with my composer friend Kadir Evre. We decided to make something very different from what we were doing recently (jazz, atonal, and Reason stuff!) One of the goals were to avoid using any sythesized sounds, and perform all the instruments that we have plus a wide variety of things that we can find at home that can make interesting sounds. As the project progressed we decided to make it a much bigger than what we thought first, and we brough another friend of us into scene. Evrim Bayindir, shared his poem with us to use it in this project. So we end up recording his voice, speaking his own poems and decided to put these inbetween all of the songs. All the instruments are performed by Kadir and me.

Although the recording process has been completed there has yet to be done some editing to give it finishing touch. I am sharing with you some of the exerpts to see what you think.

The complete work is 45 minutes in 5 movements and a short introduction.

The instruments used:

Acoustic guitar, Electric guitar, electric bass, piano, Trumpet, Ethnic flutes, Ney, Car keys, light bulb hitting the ground (!), Cooking pans, Crash cymbal, TV sound and those big blue watter bottles for subtitute drums.

So, I hope you enjoy it...

Introduction (exerpt)

Part 1 (exerpt)

Part 2 (exerpt)

Part 4 (exerpt)

And this we did just for fun! :

SKA2.MID

I'm on the right !

That's verrrrry interesting...

Thanks for listening ;)

Hmmm. Since nobody seems to be interested in writing a comment. I might aswell keep on talking and comment myself ! lol

Part 1:

Actually we had so much troubles completing this song. We had to record so many sounds, (metal kitchen stuff, tv sounds, bulbs and extc etc) If i dont remember wrong it took us 3-4 days just to record the sounds. THen afer that we wrote the form of the piece on a paper, like where is going to happen what. (A typical conversation between us would be: "hey Inal, why dont we crash the bulb on this bar, and you could throw all the pans to floor at this bar?) it was funny actually. One of the funnies experiences I had from music. we loughed and had fun at the same time as it was so difficult to put this stuff together. Performing the guitars and trumpet was also proved to a problem. we overdubed many many guitars each with completely different tuning, some of them random some of them not-so-random. It was like, playing all the hundreds of stuff just two of us. Which was ok, but needed so much time and patience. Which we had.

Complete song is 10 minutes

Part 2:

I was at home, on my way to go and continue the recording process of the follow up song to our project which was at my friends home. Then I decided to see what we have at home and suprised to see there were some ethnic kind of flutes, souvenirs from my parents trips. One from prague and one apachi instrument (thats what they told me) that was making bird noises. So I took them with me and headed to use these instruments on the next track. This one hapenned to be a bit more worl/ethnic sound, also we had a vocal section. At the end of one of the poems there was a phrase written to sound as if it was a language of an african tribe, something like "te kibare gambe ho" so we decided to sing this in a tribal manner. Again we end up recording hundreds of overdubs to come up with a chorus-like sound. It worked out good I guess.

another interesting adittion to this track was the "famous light bulb" this time we used to play the guitar. It brought a sitar-like sound which blended so nicely.

Complete song is 11 minutes

Introduction This is the last one we did. It's short and fun and crazy. It serves as a good introduction of what will follow. Again there has been alot variety of instruments used. I dont have much to say about this

Complete song is 3 minutes

well, that's my comment hehehe lol

Ok, I listened to all the samples. The work has a lot of great moments and has some bad too. It is a little bit hard to critique since I can't understand how these clips work with the rest of the piece.

I loved the introduction!!! The chaos sounds and then these silences.

PART I--- I liked a lot also. It had this relaxed "Lounge" music going on top of a lot of chaotic trumpet sounds and more. I'm not sure if I could listen to that for much longer then 2 and a half minutes but it was interesting, more needed to happen.

PART II--- To be honest, I hated the way this part sounded. It had this jungle, freeness sound and lost anything the first two parts had with the bits of chaos. This part felt so unconnected.

PART III--- This is my favorite excert. I like the guitar and how you can hear the clanging of the "Drums" but you can tell there pans or some other thing.

Overall as a piece it sounds like it would be a nice background for a dinner. It has a lot of beutiful guitar. The piece is very layed back and not up in your face.

Thanks for listening and commenting. I agree that it is difficult to judge without hearing all of it. But I was just curious about the reaction to this project. The first movement has a lot of things happening, this exeprt is just one moment from the oppening.

I will probably post the complete work when it is going to be finished. As I mentioned before, the recording has been done but there yet to be done some more editing.

Thanks for listening! appriciated ! :P :P

It's funny but I have some music in this house that is as crazy as this, and I just love it. We review some experimental music that comes our way and this is right up there with a lot of the cool stuff.

I'm not so much concerned with how the parts fit together - I see them more as little stories in and of themselves, if that makes sense - like a book of short stories. I wish I could hear the whole thing. Actually it would really fit in well on the experimental show at the radio station I work at...very neat!

I love that you had a different feel to each one, ending with an obvious tribute to jazz music...it was actually the most "sane" of all of them when I was expecting wildness! hee hee, I actually really liked part II, it sounds like the soundtrack to a National Geographic documentary! The quality of all these bits is great - you guys must have had a lot of fun. The picture is hilarious. Will we ever get to hear the entire thing?

:) -G

[edit: haha I think I gush too much over your music here...I'm embarrassed now]

[edit II: I am now listening to your North Africa documentary music...well that explains some things - you're good at that kind of stuff. I'd love to be able to make that kind of music.]

Excellent. Very well-put together and the pieces seem related though they are very different! I especially like the intro (all the starts and stops are very fun) and part 3-kind of moody/mysterious, but all of it was very intelligent. I also like that you too use "found instruments" as I call them. (pots/pans/car parts/etc.) I do this sometimes and it can yield some interesting things.

Thanks lulubery, I thought you would enjoy it. As it seemed to me your compositions have the similar approach with this one.

This was a hard task, but obviously a very enjoyable one. I am afraid, together with my friend, (co-composer) we shelved this one to edit and finish later. But i cant wait any longer to continue editing and finally presenting the end product. I believe it is going to be very interesting.

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to listen and comment.

I am slowly (I mean reeeal slow)finishing up this project. Although it is close to the final stages it is still not there. Just thought I would upload PART 1 since it is more or less ready.

here is the link Part 1

Hey Inal!

This is very very interesting! It does remind me a bit of older times though... I mean, this kind of idea flew around in the 60s... but whatever, it still is VERY interesting... :)

I didn't have time to listen to everything really, but everything I've heard (introduction and part I and half II) are most interesting and well made. (part I is a bit low in volume in the very begining, but... you're not through with mixing, are you?)

Question then:

This is ahuge project that could fill in a CD. what next?

Will you search for a company, production, whatever to put it on CD and sell it? Use it otherwise? I would be most interested, as I'm past the point to write whatever I want unless I have plenty of reasons to do so...

Do talk to me please. :P Most interested to know. :)

Cheers, inal

Nikolas,

First of all thank you for listening and writing a comment!

the production of this is rather poorly made because we recorded this at home with no proper equipment at all. I am doing all my effort to make it sound better but once it is poorly recorded there is little I can do.

Yes I am aware that this kind of thing has been done before many times. But our concept was to create something without using any computer generated samples, synths, etc. It was also a first for us. Under these circumstances thats what became of this project.

As the recording quality is not as good as I would have liked it to be, I am not planning to send this to recording companies. Maybe if it will be properly mixed and mastered by a recording engineer than it might sound much better. Apart from this, my current project is to send Io and Europa when it is finished to recording companies. But there is also another option that I might choose. There is a website where you can upload your music and they make the mastering for a price. Also, there are many places where I can duplicate the cd and make the cover art etc.. so its another option that I consider.